Dems seem confused about Iraq - Page 2

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

They didn't have "free reign" in Iraq when Saddam was in power.

that is correct. but that relates to what now?

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Um...no...they didn't.

oh ok, nevermind.

Donkey® · 02-19-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

that is correct. but that relates to what now?

Maybe we shouldn't have created this Iraq in the first place? Maybe the Iraqi people should say "enough is enough" and kick our asses out? No, wait...better yet...let's just leave.

Pro Street · 02-19-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

So you would be fine with place where terrorists are allowed free reign?

terrorists were in Iraq prior to the invasion?

it's funny, the US is now forced to fight terrorists where there were none beforehand... because of us.

it's highly ironic.

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Maybe we shouldn't have created this Iraq in the first place? Maybe the Iraqi people should say "enough is enough" and kick our asses out? No, wait...better yet...let's just leave.

ok that is your opinion. The reality of the situation is that we already went in there, there are no take backs in foreign policy. So if we left and terrorists were able to have free reign in the country, how would that be better for the US?

Pro Street · 02-19-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

ok that is your opinion. The reality of the situation is that we already went in there, there are no take backs in foreign policy. So if we left and terrorists were able to have free reign in the country, how would that be better for the US?

The bleed plan still leaves thousands of troops in Iraq for that purpose. did you even read it?

Donkey® · 02-19-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

ok that is your opinion. The reality of the situation is that we already went in there, there are no take backs in foreign policy. So if we left and terrorists were able to have free reign in the country, how would that be better for the US?

I really don't see this "haven" you're speaking of. A majority of the "terrorists" are Iraqi.

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

The bleed plan still leaves thousands of troops in Iraq for that purpose. did you even read it?

they aren't ready yet to take over

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I really don't see this "haven" you're speaking of. A majority of the "terrorists" are Iraqi.

western iraq along the border of syria al anabar province

Donkey® · 02-19-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

western iraq along the border of syria al anabar province

So one province huh? Why can't the Iraqis kick them out themselves? Even more strange to me, why don't we have 90,000 troops stationed in that province if that's the "haven?"

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

So one province huh? Why can't the Iraqis kick them out themselves? Even more strange to me, why don't we have 90,000 troops stationed in that province if that's the "haven?"

do you have any idea how big the province is? Without googling for it

Donkey® · 02-19-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

do you have any idea how big the province is? Without googling for it

Size has nothing to do with anything.

Pro Street · 02-19-2007, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

they aren't ready yet to take over

Well obviously.. we've been babysitting and essentially handfeeding them for 2 years now.

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Size has nothing to do with anything.

yes it does, the province is so large and the population is so spread out that it makes it difficult to control

Donkey® · 02-19-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

yes it does, the province is so large and the population is so spread out that it makes it difficult to control

We can't control one province yet we seem to think we can control a whole country? Right.

kinggovernor · 02-19-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

We can't control one province yet we seem to think we can control a whole country? Right.

we do control other provinces but this province and baghdad are the problem areas in iraq

Pro Street · 02-19-2007, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

we do control other provinces but this province and baghdad are the problem areas in iraq

So far this "surge" has yet to even touch Sadr's area.

ballz2wallz · 02-19-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

So far this "surge" has yet to even touch Sadr's area.

Isn't Sadr in Iran at the moment? He supposedly fled last week...

RMNIXON · 02-19-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

hillary clinton bends and sways with the lastest opinion polls

they still have no plan for the war on terror, other than a slow bleed. Which is worse than a surge

Stay the course? What? Other than get out before the next election I have heard nothing. You support the troops? So what is the plan? They are still acting like a protest group that was not majority elected!

Pro Street · 02-20-2007, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Isn't Sadr in Iran at the moment? He supposedly fled last week...

Yes, but it's still Sadr City

and if there's one thing I won't ever debate with TKG, it's military matters in terms of tactics. He knows much more than I do.