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Old 02-26-2007, 07:50 PM   #41
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dont believe you, no evidence...its one snipet with almost no context given...
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:52 PM   #42
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your own hit piece couldn't even put a dent in the argument
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:32 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I have no idea what rules of a documentary you think it violates, but its a much better documentary than most other documentaries ive ever seen from a film-making standpoint

Because you bought into the sensationalism.



A true documentary doesn't cause sensationalism.
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:38 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Because you bought into the sensationalism.



A true documentary doesn't cause sensationalism.


There's a reason why nobody takes Michael Moore seriously.
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:10 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Jas0n View Post


There's a reason why nobody takes Michael Moore seriously.
I agree. Michael Moore and the like get recognition from Hollywood because their documentaries are Hollywood-esque films. That is, they're overhyped pieces of shit with edge-of-your-seat music playing through a montage of dramatic footage interlaced with pseudo-witty dialog and amateur, at best, representation of whatever subject is being filmed. . . . just like anything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Of course there are exceptions (March of the Penguins comes to mind), but I must emphasize that they are just that: exceptions. I'm sure we've heard the phrase, "They are the exception, not the rule."



Some other, real, documentaries would be Falling Man, Blaming the Jews, Gods Next Army, Make Me Normal, Walking with Cavemen, and Connections (BBC series), to name a few. Those documentaries are very opinionated, albeit backed with cited facts, but none of them have the audacity to make the claim that "100% of the scientific community is in agreement." That, alone, makes Al Gore's shit incomparable to what might be regarded as a "true documentary."
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:20 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
your own hit piece couldn't even put a dent in the argument


Your welcome to post about any facts, comparisons, or points made in that link at any time. Knowone is stopping you.....
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:34 PM   #47
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More hate in this thread I see. If it were George Bush it would have won the Nobel Prize all by itself. Get over it people.
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:40 PM   #48
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So Gore left the awards thinking how great he was and then rolled into his extremely wasteful Mansion (24X the energy used then an average families home) to ponder how else to make the common man feel "guilty" about driving their cars and warming their houses. Amazing....
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:44 PM   #49
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It's a bigger issue than one man, I don't know that anyone should have to live in poverty to combat global warming.

There's steps everyone can take to lessen their impact though, who's to say he doesn't do anything?

I think the movie and helping with awareness and giving people the information and ideas they need to help start conserving energy is actually doing quite a lot to reduce pollution and energy use.

Also, how do we know what his energy bill looks like? Are we making a general assumption about the power consumption in a similar house? Do we know if he uses energy efficient appliances? Lights? Has solar or other power on his house? Any of that?
 
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:44 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Your welcome to post about any facts, comparisons, or points made in that link at any time. Knowone is stopping you.....
i didnt...didn't you read my reply to your post!
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:35 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
More hate in this thread I see. If it were George Bush it would have won the Nobel Prize all by itself. Get over it people.
Watch out for dichotomic arrogance.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:35 AM   #52
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Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Think Progress » Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

Stupid right wing smear merchants...this is why Gore is a hero, he backs up what he says, and easily takes down stupid lies
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:31 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Think Progress » Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

Stupid right wing smear merchants...this is why Gore is a hero, he backs up what he says, and easily takes down stupid lies
Drudges attack? He posted a story with no commentary of his own. It just happens to be against your "hero" who flies around the world in polluting private jets and uses twice the average power in his home each month as the average family uses in a year. He probably adds 4X as much greenhouse causing gases as my whole neighborhood combined when you include all the traveling he does. He's just another elitist pig that wants people to do what he says and not what he does. He's getting richer and fatter and the mindless hordes worship him for it



I mean, Jesus, he probably also produces twice as much greenhouse causing "gas" as the average person by the looks of him. Wow, he REALLY let himself go!
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:35 PM   #54
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Is that really him? He doesn't look so good. He was a decent-looking cat a few years back, now I kinda feel bad for the guy. Not bad enough to vote for him, but damn. Even assuming that's a bad picture, he's gone downhill.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:39 PM   #55
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He really did let himself go...


Not that it really matters I guess. He needs to lower his energy consumption
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:45 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Think Progress » Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

Stupid right wing smear merchants...this is why Gore is a hero, he backs up what he says, and easily takes down stupid lies
Smear merchants?

Rather than contribute to the greenhouse gasses and "purchase offsets," why can't he sacrifice a bit himself and live a more energy-efficient lifestyle?

He's asking the rest of the world to make sacrifices, but he does little more than "purchase offsets" in order to make up for his bloated energy use. Since he has so much money, purchasing offsets and buying more green energy is hardly a sacrifice for him.

I'm not asking him to live like a cave man, but he could at least sell the mansion and live in a normal home like the rest of us ordinary people. That would be a nice start and show that he is really serious about what he preaches.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:59 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
Smear merchants?

Rather than contribute to the greenhouse gasses and "purchase offsets," why can't he sacrifice a bit himself and live a more energy-efficient lifestyle?

He's asking the rest of the world to make sacrifices, but he does little more than "purchase offsets" in order to make up for his bloated energy use. Since he has so much money, purchasing offsets and buying more green energy is hardly a sacrifice for him.

I'm not asking him to live like a cave man, but he could at least sell the mansion and live in a normal home like the rest of us ordinary people. That would be a nice start and show that he is really serious about what he preaches.


His Natural Gas usage is more than my mortgage!!!

During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 02:04 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post


His Natural Gas usage is more than my mortgage!!!
God, I wish I were rich so I could waste energy like that. Us poor people aren't allowed to by our pocketbooks, and we get chastised for using the energy anyway


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Old 02-27-2007, 02:16 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post


His Natural Gas usage is more than my mortgage!!!
Yea but he pays to have trees planted every month so it's ok. I mean it's not like he has millions of dollars to where he would help make the situation better. Instead he spends all his money in hopes of making his lifestyle appear to be environmentally neutral while he's flying around the world in private jets and taking motor parades to and fro.
 
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