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Old 02-27-2007, 03:49 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Think Progress » Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

Stupid right wing smear merchants...this is why Gore is a hero, he backs up what he says, and easily takes down stupid lies
That's all a liberal lie.

The "conservatives" on this board know the real numbers and how wasteful Gore is. The stuff you posted is obvously made up.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:35 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
That's all a liberal lie.

The "conservatives" on this board know the real numbers and how wasteful Gore is. The stuff you posted is obvously made up.
Let me repeat. Gores GAS BILL is more than my mortgage each month. As far as I know you can't get natural gas from solar, nuclear or wind power. But I might be mistaken.

He's obviously very wasteful and a hypocrite.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:45 PM   #63
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It doesn't matter.

Partisan politics rule number 1: it's okay for my team but not for the other.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:35 PM   #64
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The latest excuse is how Gore "buys" carbon credits like he is some kind of Industry! He better check with his "Green" friends because some oppose these credits.

It reminds me of an objection to the Catholic Church by the Protestants. The clergy would sell forgiveness of sins to the rich!
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:06 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Let me repeat. Gores GAS BILL is more than my mortgage each month.
Sounds like someone needs a better paying job.

I'm sure there are many rich people who you could say the same thing about.



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As far as I know you can't get natural gas from solar, nuclear or wind power. But I might be mistaken.
Natural gas is used for heating. You could use electric, but gas is better as it's not a fossil fuel.

I don't believe that gas causes environmental problems other than those assiciated with it's collection and transportaion. You could say the same of foodstuffs.

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He's obviously very wasteful and a hypocrite.


No, you guys obviously have a hard on for going after him.
 
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:41 PM   #66
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Well, Al Gore is a hero for his defeat of the most preposterous threat this country hs ever seen:

the threat of the dastardly Manbearpig.

Cereal.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:37 AM   #67
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I don't believe that gas causes environmental problems other than those assiciated with it's collection and transportaion. You could say the same of foodstuffs.
forget the whole thing about BURNING the gas ? Releasing all that nasty co2
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:29 AM   #68
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forget the whole thing about BURNING the gas ? Releasing all that nasty co2
It's the cleanest of the fossil fuels.

Natural gas burns cleaner than other fossil fuels, such as oil and coal, and produces less greenhouse gas per unit energy released. For an equivalent amount of heat, burning natural gas produces about 30% less carbon dioxide than burning petroleum and about 45% less than burning coal.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:09 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
It's the cleanest of the fossil fuels.


You can't argue with people who don't understand Gore's message and the subject matter of that message to begin with.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:31 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
You can't argue with people who don't understand Gore's message and the subject matter of that message to begin with.
Care to enlighten us?
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:35 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Care to enlighten us?


He does SOMETHING. That's all he's trying to say. Do SOMETHING. Take responsibility for your own environment and do SOMETHING. No, he doesn't live in a cave...nor is he saying you should. No, he isn't 100% envrio-friendly...nor is he saying you should be. He wants you to at least attempt to do SOMETHING to help your environment. You guys hate him and the global warming issue so much you just relentlessly attack him for no real reason. Guilt maybe? Guilt because you know you're part of the problem and not part of the solution? Humans are destroying their environment. Whether you want to say we're causing global warming is pretty much obsolete at this point. Who cares? Not only is the earth getting warmer (naturally or otherwise) but we eat, drink, sleep in our own shit...and it gets worse every day. I know you'll not be "enlightened" by my little nugget...but some people will never be.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:49 PM   #72
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
He does SOMETHING. That's all he's trying to say. Do SOMETHING. Take responsibility for your own environment and do SOMETHING. No, he doesn't live in a cave...nor is he saying you should. No, he isn't 100% envrio-friendly...nor is he saying you should be. He wants you to at least attempt to do SOMETHING to help your environment. You guys hate him and the global warming issue so much you just relentlessly attack him for no real reason. Guilt maybe? Guilt because you know you're part of the problem and not part of the solution? Humans are destroying their environment. Whether you want to say we're causing global warming is pretty much obsolete at this point. Who cares? Not only is the earth getting warmer (naturally or otherwise) but we eat, drink, sleep in our own shit...and it gets worse every day. I know you'll not be "enlightened" by my little nugget...but some people will never be.
But many of us DO do something. For example, I recycle essentially everything that is recyclable. What does Al do?
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:55 PM   #73
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
But many of us DO do something. For example, I recycle essentially everything that is recyclable. What does Al do?


20 times more than you. People that do nothing or the minimum have no right to criticize someone that does a lot.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:01 PM   #74
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
But many of us DO do something. For example, I recycle essentially everything that is recyclable. What does Al do?
Flies around the world in a private jet talking about pollution and global warming.

You make much less pollution then Gore does, yet people will tell you you do less.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:03 PM   #75
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
20 times more than you. People that do nothing or the minimum have no right to criticize someone that does a lot.
I've haven't heard that he does anything except talk about it Don't you think he'd be more effective if he walked his talk?

If he does 20x more than me, it should be easy to tell me what he does, right?

Not only that, but I don't even own a car, and I leave my heat at 60 degrees, and I don't shower at hot temperatures (heat is by gas), and I only wash clothes or dishes at full loads. I can't really imagine I could do any more.

What do you do, friend to all?

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Old 02-28-2007, 05:16 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
He uses 20 times more than you.
Fixt.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:16 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by Thomas Crown View Post
Fixt.


His home is 20 times bigger than his. Fixt again.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:17 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
His home is 20 times bigger than his. Fixt again.
That proves absolutely nothing. Again what does he do besides talk a lot?

20x more than me...come on, this should be easy.

And what do you do?
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:19 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
I've haven't heard that he does anything except talk about it Don't you think he'd be more effective if he walked his talk?
It has already been explained by him what he does...to go along with "talking" about it.

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If he does 20x more than me, it should be easy to tell me what he does, right?
Already addressed.

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Not only that, but I don't even own a car, and I leave my heat at 60 degrees, and I don't shower at hot temperatures (heat is by gas), and I only wash clothes or dishes at full loads. I can't really imagine I could do any more.
There are a lot of things you can do that you're not. The fact that Gore "talks" about them is a key point...talking leads to education. So when you say "there isn't much more I can do" that is just lack of education and Gore is there to fill that void for you.

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What do you do, friend to all?
What I do is what I do but I am not the one criticizing someone else either so what I do doesn't matter.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:20 PM   #80