Al Gore wins Oscar! BEST DOCUMENTARY!

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

There are a lot of things you can do that you're not. The fact that Gore "talks" about them is a key point...talking leads to education. So when you say "there isn't much more I can do" that is just lack of education and Gore is there to fill that void for you.

I thought it's already been proven that a lot of what he talks about is false, based on old data or highly exaggerated. Not really educating, more like scare mongering.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

There are a lot of things you can do that you're not. The fact that Gore "talks" about them is a key point...talking leads to education. So when you say "there isn't much more I can do" that is just lack of education and Gore is there to fill that void for you.

There you have it folks. Straight from the horses (uhm, Donkeys?) mouth.

Your actions of conserving energy mean nothing. Gore "talking" about conserving energy means everything.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It has already been explained by him what he does...to go along with "talking" about it.



Already addressed.

Let's cut the bullshit. I'm not going to wach the movie. I just won't. So I'm asking YOU to tell me. Can't you do that since you're so knowledgeable? Can't you tell me what Gore himself says? Is that possible, or is it too difficult for you to tell me? I want ot hear it from YOU, not Gore.

There are a lot of things you can do that you're not. The fact that Gore "talks" about them is a key point...talking leads to education. So when you say "there isn't much more I can do" that is just lack of education and Gore is there to fill that void for you.

Again, I want YOU to tell me what I can do, not Gore. I'm not seeing the movie. YOU tell me since you seem to know so well.

What I do is what I do but I am not the one criticizing someone else either so what I do doesn't matter.

You're criticizing me, and I'm asking you. It matters in this conversation, especially since you're pulling the same Gore trick "it doesn't matter what I do, it only matters what I tell you to do"

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by JaJae

I thought it's already been proven that a lot of what he talks about is false, based on old data or highly exaggerated. Not really educating, more like scare mongering.

Proven by whom? Someone in here? Please....

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

There you have it folks. Straight from the horses (uhm, Donkeys?) mouth.

Your actions of conserving energy mean nothing. Gore "talking" about conserving energy means everything.

I am sure I said that somewhere...

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am sure I said that somewhere...

Al Gore wins Oscar! BEST DOCUMENTARY!

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Let's cut the bullshit. I'm not going to wach the movie. I just won't. So I'm asking YOU to tell me. Can't you do that since you're so knowledgeable? Can't you tell me what Gore himself says? Is that possible, or is it too difficult for you to tell me? I want ot hear it from YOU, not Gore.

I am not Gore nor am I going to spread HIS message. If you want to know what HE says...listen to HIM.

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Again, I want YOU to tell me what I can do, not Gore. I'm not seeing the movie. YOU tell me since you seem to know so well.

And again...I am not GORE so I have no need to repeat what HE says. Go watch, read a transcript or burn a dvd.

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

You're criticizing me, and I'm asking you. It matters in this conversation, especially since you're pulling the same Gore trick "it doesn't matter what I do, it only matters what I tell you to do"

I am criticizing you for the way you and others in here blast GORE for doing SOMETHING to help spread a message of "our environment needs to be cleaner". I don't care what you do...and what I do doesn't matter in this conversation. I am not going to play your little spin game.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Al Gore wins Oscar! BEST DOCUMENTARY!

As usual you're worthless in providing anything but nonsense.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Let's face it. It doesn't matter what Gore does or says. He's a Democrat and he TALKS BIG. Therefore, democrats will worship him and say everyone else (especially non-dems) are doing less or are not doing enough. Gore can do no wrong to fellow Dems. You can see it in these threads. He flies hundreds of thousands of miles a year in private jets, uses 20X more energy than the average person (not counting the jets and Cars/trucks that ferry him too and fro) yet his minions say he still does "20 times more than you" to conserve energy.

It's so silly

So building awareness does nothing to help a problem?


What if he uses 20x the energy than everyone else, but gets 100 people to half what they use per year doing his traveling?

I guess you don't see the disconnect between that and what you are saying.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am not Gore nor am I going to spread HIS message. If you want to know what HE says...listen to HIM.

It wouldn't do you any good anyway.

He thinks there is zero scientific evidence of global climate change.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am not Gore nor am I going to spread HIS message. If you want to know what HE says...listen to HIM.

And again...I am not GORE so I have no need to repeat what HE says. Go watch, read a transcript or burn a dvd.

Awesome. You defend him, you support his message, and you attack us for criticizing him, yet you can't tell us what he says, cause it's 'his message'.

I am criticizing you for the way you and others in here blast GORE for doing SOMETHING to help spread a message of "our environment needs to be cleaner".

We have reason to criticize him and his message, especially when he doen't believe it enough to do it himself.

I don't care what you do...and what I do doesn't matter in this conversation. I am not going to play your little spin game.

You should care about what I do, especially when accusing me of doing 'not enough' or 'nothing'. It's not a game, it's answering your accusations. You've accused me of doing the bare minimum, and yet I don't even drive a car. Frankly my friend, you're an asshole, and you can't even smell your own shit.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Scrum

It wouldn't do you any good anyway.

He thinks there is zero scientific evidence of global climate change.

What's funny is that I don't even believe that man has that much of an effect on global warming. So I am by no means pro Gore. I just think it's stupid to attack someone for no reason at all or just because you don't like him from an election 8 years ago. What I do think is that none of us do enough to protect our environment and the fact that Gore has some ideas and tries to educate people on the different aspects of the environment and global warming is admirable.

[Thomas Crown]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

His home is 20 times bigger than his. Fixt again.

A 10k square foot home is not 20x the size of the average home. It is 5x the size. And homes that size are better insulated and more energy efficient to boot.

Sorry, your argument fails.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What's funny is that I don't even believe that man has that much of an effect on global warming. So I am by no means pro Gore. I just think it's stupid to attack someone for no reason at all or just because you don't like him from an election 8 years ago. What I do think is that none of us do enough to protect our environment and the fact that Gore has some ideas and tries to educate people on the different aspects of the environment and global warming is admirable.

I agree.

Watching these guys trip all over themselves to attack him was entertaining at first, but now it's just sad.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What's funny is that I don't even believe that man has that much of an effect on global warming. So I am by no means pro Gore. I just think it's stupid to attack someone for no reason at all or just because you don't like him from an election 8 years ago. What I do think is that none of us do enough to protect our environment and the fact that Gore has some ideas and tries to educate people on the different aspects of the environment and global warming is admirable.

I am not attacking his stance on global warming because I dislike his past. I am attacking his stance on global warming because he's portraying it falsley. He's not simply 'educating people to be cleaner', he's creating a state of fear. THAT state of fear tactic is what I'm criticizing.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thomas Crown

A 10k square foot home is not 20x the size of the average home. It is 5x the size. And homes that size are better insulated and more energy efficient to boot.

Sorry, your argument fails.

Well, my house is like 600 sq ft. It's tiny.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Awesome. You defend him, you support his message, and you attack us for criticizing him, yet you can't tell us what he says, cause it's 'his message'.

I defend him because you baselessly attack him. As I have stated before, I don't even believe man has that much of an effect (if any) on global warming...yet I do know man destroys the environment...THAT's what's important to me and someone who pushes a message of "help clean up our environment" while doing things to show he follows his own message is something I can appreciate. I don't attack him just because he's a democrat...like you do.

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

We have reason to criticize him and his message, especially when he doen't believe it enough to do it himself.

Which is a totally false statement. He does do it himself.

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

You should care about what I do, especially when accusing me of doing 'not enough' or 'nothing'. It's not a game, it's answering your accusations. You've accused me of doing the bare minimum, and yet I don't even drive a car. Frankly my friend, you're an asshole, and you can't even smell your own shit.

I have said that NOBODY does enough...yes, sorry, that includes even you your majesty. The only one acting like an asshole is you. Again, attacking me should earn you negative rep or a reprimand from the mods...yet nothing. Go figure.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Thomas Crown

A 10k square foot home is not 20x the size of the average home. It is 5x the size. And homes that size are better insulated and more energy efficient to boot.

Sorry, your argument fails.

And you have no argument so what are you even doing here?