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Old 02-28-2007, 10:48 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
He's doing EXACTLY what he says everyone else should be doing. Period.
Living in big houses that use a lot of energy, driving around in SUVs and flying in private jets?


If that's what he wants for everyone, I'm for it! Gore '08!
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:52 PM   #142
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No he isn't. Period.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:53 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Living in big houses that use a lot of energy, driving around in SUVs and flying in private jets?

If that's what he wants for everyone, I'm for it! Gore '08!
Way to miss his point
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:56 PM   #144
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Way to miss his point
He wants everyone to change light bulbs?

I was just criticized for the fact that I don't have a car and I recycle, and yet all Al wants us to do is change light bulbs.

What's his point? Enlighten me.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:19 PM   #145
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Regardless what you all think of the film's accuracy, Gore's energy usage definitely puts him in the hypocrite category. Now, if he went to some exotic solar capture system that powered most of his estate, that would help his credibility in my eyes. Hell, if I was that rich, I'd go for something like that if it was feasible. If nothing else, it'd be a fun technical project to tackle.
 
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:38 PM   #146
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
You mean a news outlet was attempting to have both sides of the story instead of rehashing a right wing smear job? Golly! They should be ashamed.

Or that they took two days to pick up the story after they ignored it? I have no problem with the actual story they posted. That was not the point. If you read Goldberg's books for example you would no how some forms of media bias work. Ignoring stories and hoping they just go away quickly is part of it. But that didn't happen. The first story was accurate and that is not smear. You call up people and follow up the story with additional facts. Journalism works that way all the time. Stories progress over time.

OH, I guess the left winf press smeared Foley by not reporting the difference in the e-mails as opposed to the IM's in the early stories? Or was it a case of more facts coming to light as the story progressed?
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:40 PM   #147
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
He wants everyone to change light bulbs?

I was just criticized for the fact that I don't have a car and I recycle, and yet all Al wants us to do is change light bulbs.

What's his point? Enlighten me.
What is his opinion on higher gas taxes to cut consumption? That hits the lower incomes and the working family more than anything else the left has come up with!
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:04 AM   #148
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
No he isn't. Period.


Then feel free to point out ANYTHING he has asked others to do that he doesn't.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:07 AM   #149
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Are you serious Donkey? You leave rep comments out of spite?

So typical.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:07 AM   #150
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Then feel free to point out ANYTHING he has asked others to do that he doesn't.
Conserve.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:08 AM   #151
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It's already been pointed out.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:12 PM   #152
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Originally Posted by Thomas Crown View Post
Conserve.


Which he does. Next?
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:18 PM   #153
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Which he does. Next?
But he still uses more power than a homeless man living on the street!

He's a hypocrite.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:23 PM   #154
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
But he still uses more power than a homeless man living on the street!

He's a hypocrite.
Not only does he use more than a homeless man down the street, but he uses more than the average American in general.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:24 PM   #155
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
Not only does he use more than a homeless man down the street, but he uses more than the average American in general.



So what? That isn't the point and that isn't against what he preaches.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:28 PM   #156
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
Not only does he use more than a homeless man down the street, but he uses more than the average American in general.
And he doesn't have more money, a larger home or travel more than the average american either.


Are you are trying to say that Gore preaches people giving up their houses and cars?
That's not true at all. He only advocates people trying to use economical solutions to lower their impact, which people have shown that he is doing.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:00 PM   #157
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
So what?
The same could be said about Scrum's post.

That isn't the point and that isn't against what he preaches.
I never said it was.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
And he doesn't have more money, a larger home or travel more than the average american either.
Yes he does.

Are you are trying to say that Gore preaches people giving up their houses and cars?
No.
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:55 PM   #159
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
What is his opinion on higher gas taxes to cut consumption? That hits the lower incomes and the working family more than anything else the left has come up with!

Found it:



Al Gore Supported Plans For Even Higher Gas Prices By Endorsing The Kyoto Protocol. At the 1997 Kyoto Conference, Al Gore committed to reducing United States carbon emissions to less than 1990 levels by 2012. Key to discharging Al Gore’s promises at Kyoto is a carbon tax which experts have concluded will raise gas prices by 65 cents a gallon and reduce average household income by nearly $2700 even as the cost of goods and services rise in response to higher taxes. ("Global Warming: The High Cost of the Kyoto Protocol," WEFA, Inc., 1998, p. 1) Al Gore Cast The Tie-Breaking Vote To Increase The Gas Tax By 4.3 Cents A Gallon. The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, a $241 billion tax increase proposed by the Clinton/Gore Administration, passed on August 6, 1993 on the tie-breaking vote cast by Gore. Included in the bill was a 4.3 cent per gallon gas tax increase. Gore was also its leading advocate in the Administration according to author Bob Woodward: "The meeting quickly turned to the gasoline tax. Vice President Gore, a strong environmentalist who advocated energy taxes as a way to reduce pollution, argued that the tax should be retained. President Clinton could be attacked on character if he dropped the gasoline tax now, Gore said emphatically and emotionally." (Bob Woodward, "The Agenda: Inside the Clinton White House, Part 3 of 4," The Washington Post, June 7, 1994) Al Gore Was The Chief Advocate Of The Proposed 1993 BTU Tax, Which Would Have Raised Gas Prices By Six Percent. According to George Stephanopoulos, "Gore was the chief advocate of the energy tax, arguing that it was good for both the economy and the environment." (George Stephanopoulos, All Too Human: A Political Education, 1999, p. 206) Al Gore Has Been A "Driving Force" Behind The Increased Regulation Of Gasoline, Which Has Resulted In An Increase In Gas Prices. Al Gore has been a "driving force" behind the stricter regulation of gasoline, which has "pushed up production prices and created a patchwork of contradictory gasoline formulas in various parts of the country." (Bill Sammon, "Gore’s Strategy Is To Vilify Oil Firms," The Washington Times, June 22, 2000) A recent study by the bipartisan Congressional Research Service cited these factors as contributing to the massive increase in gas prices in the Midwest. (Lawrence Kumins, "Midwest Gasoline Price Increases," Congressional Research Service, June 16, 2000).


 
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:58 PM   #160
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Found it:



Al Gore Supported Plans For Even Higher Gas Prices By Endorsing The Kyoto Protocol. At the 1997 Kyoto Conference, Al Gore committed to reducing United States carbon emissions to less than 1990 levels by 2012. Key to discharging Al Gore’s promises at Kyoto is a carbon tax which experts have concluded will raise gas prices by 65 cents a gallon and reduce average household income by nearly $2700 even as the cost of goods and services rise i