Wow, I can't believe some of this stuff Firing ones who prosecute Republicans that commit crimes and firing those who don't go out of their way to bring charges against Democrats just before the election... Imagine if the tables were reversed. It'd be wrong then, and it's wrong now. It ...
03-16-2007, 12:43 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina 
| Wow, I can't believe some of this stuff Firing ones who prosecute Republicans that commit crimes and firing those who don't go out of their way to bring charges against Democrats just before the election... Imagine if the tables were reversed. It'd be wrong then, and it's wrong now. It may not be illegal but it's certainly unethical at the very least. People in a role which has the great responsibility of bringing charges (or deciding not to) should not be making those decisions on anything other than the merits of a case.. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 12:59 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
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03-16-2007, 02:03 PM
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| Member  Conservative
| Originally Posted by Scrum
pure conjecture...how about corrupt democrats? nah, we would rather not admit that...it does not fit our agenda... nominating a convicted you know Murtha, admitting on tape about possibly accepting a bribe... Alsee Hastings...was impeached by the House in 1989 for bribery and perjury. Earlier in 1981, the Senate convicted him as a Judge for taking a $150,000 bribe and for perjury Rep. William Jefferson, D-New Orleans, who is at the center of a federal criminal bribery probe, received a personal loan from a satellite radio executive who has had business before the federal government, financial records released Wednesday show. Noah Samara, CEO of WorldSpace Inc., loaned Jefferson between $50,001 and $100,000, according to Jefferson's financial disclosure form for 2005. The date of the loan is not given, but Samara's company was pressing the Federal Communications Commission to let it launch a new satellite last year. yeah it is only a republican thing... but dont let that get in the way of trying to make this a single party thing... | ||||
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03-16-2007, 02:24 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat  Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by MTdream
again, here we are with people defending the actions by throwing other issues around. if I ever get arrested for murder, I'm going to explain to the judge that other people commit murder, so they shouldn't worry about me. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 02:42 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrum Like Clinton firing the attorney that was about to press charges against Dan Rostenkowski? He ended up being charged by a different attorney so Clinton's plan ended up not working.
In case you conveniently forgot who he was:
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03-16-2007, 02:51 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT!  Independent MN
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03-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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| Originally Posted by Pro Street
excuse me, I was not the person that posted the blather about it being a republican thing... or should we just remain silent when flogged... your pretty funny.... | ||||
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03-16-2007, 02:54 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Roonie  Can't think of anything original to say? I do...Precedent. Oh, and unlike Murder (which ProS is comparing this this to) firing 8 people is not illegal. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 02:55 PM
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| Originally Posted by Roonie another valuable contribution to this thread... why is it that you all try soooooo hard to mitigate history? it is called context...it is called precedent... face it, the left is trying to make hay out of a non issue...why is that sooo hard to admit??? oh wait...the party that talks about free speech wants it silenced whe it is convenient for them...sorry I forgot my place...bad american, bad...there i have personally flogged myself... now can we try and have intellectually stimulating conversation versus political pandering, and mindless talking points? | ||||
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03-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT! Independent MN
| Originally Posted by MTdream and your point is?
 I think that makes sense if you stop bringing up Clinton etc. The thread gets wasted and sidetracked trying to defend actions that happened 6+ years ago. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:00 PM
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| Looks like people Bush approved of for 4-5 years were given the boot as soon as GOP senators didn't think they didn't charge enough Democrats: And documents show Iglesias’s name was not included on a list of federal prosecutors to be let go until after he received calls from Sen. Pete Domenici and Rep. Heather Wilson, both Republicans, last October to inquire about a public corruption investigation | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:12 PM
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| I'm your huckleberry!  Independent Ohio
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON
One is borderline ethical, the other is unethical. Fire people when you enter office, ethical. Pressure people due to not aggressively pursuing the other politcal party, and then eventually fire them, unethical.
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03-16-2007, 03:13 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by MTdream flogged?
 This is a Bush Administration thing, with a WH adviser communicating with the AG on firing attorneys based on their loyalty to Bush, and their investigations. It is based upon what should be separate powers in government. It is based upon Gonzalez stating he, nor the WH had anything to do with this when they had quite a bit to do with it. flogged? no. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:14 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by MTdream precedent?
they are two completely separate issues, why do you insist on thinking they are exactly the same? | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:18 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| I am baffled at how conservatives defend this. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:26 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Pro Street
I tried to warn you about this years ago, but you wouldn't listen | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:36 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| I mean, it's the AG working with the WH, an Advisor taking on the role that someone like the CoS should have, The Justice Dept trying to remove the Senate from confirmng attorneys by using a Patriot Act measure that now allows interim attorneys to be placed until the president's term. The same office shows an obvious attempt to stack the JD with those that would investigate democrats while turning a blind eye to GOP congressmen, it shows that they want loyalty over fairness. It just sickens me that people are defending this with saying, "clinton did something like this." If it's so wrong, then you must condemn both, not accept one just because the other did it. | ||||
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03-16-2007, 03:38 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Pro Street You are correct. Clinton fired EVERYONE. he was afraid of EVERYONE. Bush only wanted a few gone that he thought weren't doing a good job.
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03-16-2007, 03:48 PM
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| Pinko Commie Bastard  Communist Moscow
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Proof they "weren't doing a good job" ?
Their reviews were solid so I'm curious where you pulled that from. Or maybe by "good job" you mean sucking the cock of the administration. After all, the real reason they lost their jobs here is that they couldn't continue to deep throat our wonderful President after watching how he has handled his office. Open wide new cronie prosecutor recruits!
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