Those in support of the war are quiet no more

[smokie700]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

There are organizations you can join when not actively serving and having served, you simply can't march when on duty, and you can't wear your uniform, there are 100s of things they could have done to show SOME evidence they served, they didnt

Yes i will listen to you for information of what you can and can't do while serving!! The 11 years i have been military mean nothing because you know all the rules.

you can attend rallies as long as your not in the proper duty uniform and you are on personal time. I would think the biggest thing to show they served or have served would be attending.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by smokie700

Yes i will listen to you for information of what you can and can't do while serving!! The 11 years i have been military mean nothing because you know all the rules.

Ok, teach me master

you can attend rallies as long as your not in the proper duty uniform and you are on personal time.

I already said that...nice lesson

I would think the biggest thing to show they served or have served would be attending

Why would that mean anything, check out VoteVets for tons of anti-iraq veterans, the only Iraq veteran in the House, who recieved a bronze star for his service, is in the house voting with the Democrats for a timetable...

So 100% of Iraqi Veterans at the federal level are for a timetable, looks like attending the pro-war rally may be a sign of not being in the military

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I like all the military aged men there not serving in iraq, what cowards of their own principles

[nbiggershaft]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Funny they don't see it that way? So who are being delusional?

Neither.

Is it beyond your imagination to think that both war supporters and war opposers can care for our troops?

[DosEquis]

"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they’re made … not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

Support the troops!

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

We - all of us - have a large stake in seeing that President Bush does not fail, for it is on "We the People" that the consequences of such failure shall be visited; and not just ourselves, but upon our children and grandchildren and generations to come. It is time that we put aside our selfish, partisan interests, and unite in the cause of our country, our Constitution, and the commonweal. In this we must not fail, we must not hesitate or falter, but we must act with diligence and courage in the performance of our duties as citizens, both in choosing our representatives and elected officials, and in seeing that they act in accordance with the law and in the interests of our nation.

Very well said

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

Most important things in life depend on making the right choices. To do so requires sound judgment, for which neither intellect nor study may suffice; and, whenever in doubt, one need have resort to good advice. It is even the more so in politics, for it is not always a question of "right" or "left," but in choosing rightly and wisely. This last has been the major fault and failing of the present administration, for President Bush - like him or not - has repeatedly made bad decisions, for which he received bad advice; and in which mistakes he has wrongly chosen to persist, compounding the error. It is time now that President Bush be made to see the error of his ways.

We - all of us - have a large stake in seeing that President Bush does not fail, for it is on "We the People" that the consequences of such failure shall be visited; and not just ourselves, but upon our children and grandchildren and generations to come. It is time that we put aside our selfish, partisan interests, and unite in the cause of our country, our Constitution, and the commonweal. In this we must not fail, we must not hesitate or falter, but we must act with diligence and courage in the performance of our duties as citizens, both in choosing our representatives and elected officials, and in seeing that they act in accordance with the law and in the interests of our nation.

Ok, so he needs to see the errors of his ways. Hasn't the Press and Congress done as much talking about him changing and he hasn't? So how do they get him to admit his errors so we can move on? Isn't the next step in holding him accountable Impeachment?

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

No they havn't. Also, an impeachment proceeding would accomplish little, and only further divide the country over the important issues. It is time for deeds, not words. It is time for our newly elected Congress to step up to the plate and assert the power of the legislative branch; and it is time for us to see that they (our duly elected representatives) stop shirking their duties and responsibilities.

So they should over ride his vetos?

[Bob the Goat]

What is the "Bush administration's cause in Iraq" ? I haven't heard a reason other than the falsehoods and fabrications that lead to the illegal American invasion. Perhaps it's oil? Perhaps it's colonialism? Perhaps just the sheer immoral pleasure of having the power vto kill seventy thousand CIVILIANS?

[Pro Street]

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

Most important things in life depend on making the right choices. To do so requires sound judgment, for which neither intellect nor study may suffice; and, whenever in doubt, one need have resort to good advice. It is even the more so in politics, for it is not always a question of "right" or "left," but in choosing rightly and wisely. This last has been the major fault and failing of the present administration, for President Bush - like him or not - has repeatedly made bad decisions, for which he received bad advice; and in which mistakes he has wrongly chosen to persist, compounding the error. It is time now that President Bush be made to see the error of his ways.

We - all of us - have a large stake in seeing that President Bush does not fail, for it is on "We the People" that the consequences of such failure shall be visited; and not just ourselves, but upon our children and grandchildren and generations to come. It is time that we put aside our selfish, partisan interests, and unite in the cause of our country, our Constitution, and the commonweal. In this we must not fail, we must not hesitate or falter, but we must act with diligence and courage in the performance of our duties as citizens, both in choosing our representatives and elected officials, and in seeing that they act in accordance with the law and in the interests of our nation.

And it all will begin with oversight and checks.


the best thing to happen with the new congress was the first cut away from the Patriot Act.