Very few folks on here have ever defended Gore. I have seen people make clarifications about him since some folks lump him together with GW scientists etc. which he is not. He does get credit for bringing to the average American consciousness the GW reality to which most folks don't ...
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03-20-2007, 11:57 AM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT!  Independent MN 
| Very few folks on here have ever defended Gore. I have seen people make clarifications about him since some folks lump him together with GW scientists etc. which he is not. He does get credit for bringing to the average American consciousness the GW reality to which most folks don't either care about or bother to read much info on. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 12:06 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Roonie Nope.
Gore is donating all of his money from the film to The Alliance for Climate Protection. He doesn't make a dime. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 12:11 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT! Independent MN
| Originally Posted by Scrum Didn't know that...... good to hear. Like he needs anymore money to begin with. I have yet to watch his movie but will do so once it goes to video.
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03-20-2007, 12:26 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat  Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz he is not the spokesman for GW...there is no spokesman.
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03-20-2007, 12:46 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Pro Street The only people who ever even bring Gore into the discussion are the anti-GW people.
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03-20-2007, 12:47 PM
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| I'm your huckleberry!  Independent Ohio
| I'm confused. Is this a thread about "if global warming is happening" or if there is fear mongering? I believe there is fear mongering on both sides. Those like Gore predicting the world will "drastically" change in the next ten years compared to those who deny GW and say the crazy tree huggers are trying to ruin business owners with environmental legislation. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 12:57 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| ok, someone from a met group made a post about people asking about GW:
it pretty much sums things up. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 01:01 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Pro Street So you don't believe the hype about global warming?
 Given that you're going into this field, you're probably most qualified to say something on this issue... | ||||
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03-20-2007, 01:06 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Another Scientist critical of Global Warming
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03-20-2007, 02:22 PM
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| Originally Posted by Scrum
right...  he raises his visibility...builds his per speech fee...oh but wait..shouldnt we write him off too since he is old oil money? oh wait, I forget, he supports the agenda so we hold a different standard... and then we woke up,and realized this whole thing is about money... fear, and forcing agendas because there is billions just in reasearch... | ||||
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03-20-2007, 02:26 PM
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| Originally Posted by Pro Street Pro street to his credit has engaged and beenopen to discussion, and discovery... refershing actually... | ||||
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03-20-2007, 05:49 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by MTdream Have any evidence he doesn't, or is this just the usual character assassination?
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03-20-2007, 07:09 PM
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| Originally Posted by Scrum he is donating his money to a company he is Chairman of...hmmmm weird...
kind of like buying carbon credits from a company you own...but you arent really buying carbon credits, your buying stock.... And, dont even bother going down the path it is a 501 c3 blah blah blah, he is casting the appearance of donating...but there is no way he is jet setting around the globe, doing all this "work" and not padding his pocket books... and dont even bother trying to tell me he is doing it because of his great concern for the globe...as he is burning tons of fuel, getting concerts together (which will cause more fuel to be burned) and making money from oil, and mining if he cares, why not do an online concert...and have the bands stay put...and have people just donate... | ||||
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03-20-2007, 07:24 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT! Independent MN
| Originally Posted by MTdream
Wrong, actually the company designation makes all the difference in the world. The company you are refering to is a non profit company or better known as a 501 (c)3 status. Similar to church's, libraries, etc. "To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates. The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction." taken directly from the IRS web site (bold added by me). Exemption Requirements As for the concerts etc, again he gets credit for bringing the message to America in different media formats and with different age groups. This has huge long term benefits for the short term negligable impact on the environment. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 07:28 PM
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| Originally Posted by Roonie why the defensiveness for Gore?
I am quite familiar with 501 c3's did you notice I showed you it was a 501 c-3? So, your trying to say that people who work at 501 c3's dont make a salary? btw, the key to a good shell 501 c3, is that it shouldnt have "earnings" key word you bolded... | ||||
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03-20-2007, 07:34 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Scrum How many paid speeches has he gotten because of it? He's also the chairman for the Alliance for Climate Protection. And for the record only 5% of the box office gross (from paramount) is going to his foundation, none of the DVD sales (which should gross more than the box office will be donated).
He has made money off the book, dvd and the movie and continues to do so as far as I'm aware. He's donating the money to his own organization that pays for him to live a lavish lifestyle and do what he'd be doing anyway. It's just a front to make it seem like he's donating it. He's donating it to himself and spending it on his lifestyle (private jets, etc). So while it's true he's donating his proceeds, he's donating them to himself the same as he buys his carbon offsets from himself. Buy paying for this movie you are donating to Al Gore destroying the environment through his absurdly un-environmentally friendly lifestyle.
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03-20-2007, 07:43 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT! Independent MN
| Originally Posted by MTdream Questions taken off the IRS web site again in regards to a non-profit company.
Can we pay salaries to our board members? Can we rent a building owned by a board member, or purchase equipment from a board member? Tax law always permits the payment of reasonable compensation for goods or services actually rendered. If the IRS finds that amounts received by insiders are unreasonably high, however, they can fine both the insider who received the payment, and the board members who approved the payment. It is a good idea, therefore, to fully document the board’s decision-making process when any kind of payment will be made to an insider. | ||||
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03-20-2007, 07:43 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by JaJae His share of the revenue goes to the charity. Paramount is doing the 5% on their own.
Originally Posted by JaJae Proof that he's illegally taking money from this organization to pay for his "lavish lifestyle"?
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