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Old 03-20-2007, 08:00 PM   #41
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His share of the revenue goes to the charity. Paramount is doing the 5% on their own.
I don't think you're following. His share of revenue goes to his own charity he had set up which he uses to spend on his lavish lifestyle and private jets, etc.

Proof that he's illegally taking money from this organization to pay for his "lavish lifestyle"?
It's not illegal.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:02 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
His share of the revenue goes to the charity. Paramount is doing the 5% on their own.

Proof that he's illegally taking money from this organization to pay for his "lavish lifestyle"?
I never siad he was illegally doing so...why pull the wool over peoples eyes illegally when you can do it legally?

the assumption he is doing the same for speeches on the subject, trips to discuss the subject, paid endorsements, DVD sales, audio CD sales, Book Sales, sitting on boards, boards of 501c3's etc. etc. etc. etc.

come on...
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:05 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I don't think you're following. His share of revenue goes to his own charity he had set up which he uses to spend on his lavish lifestyle and private jets, etc.
Again, do you have any proof of that?

As far as his lifestyle, he has enough money to live how he does without this. He may charge for his speeches, but welcome to America. I didn't hear anyone crying when Regan got paid some ridiculous amount for a speech.
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:06 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by MTdream View Post
I never siad he was illegally doing so...why pull the wool over peoples eyes illegally when you can do it legally?

the assumption he is doing the same for speeches on the subject, trips to discuss the subject, paid endorsements, DVD sales, audio CD sales, Book Sales, sitting on boards, boards of 501c3's etc. etc. etc. etc.

come on...
Capitalism. Welcome to it.

You have shown nothing to prove he's taking money from his organization and putting it in his pocket.
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:08 PM   #45
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Again, do you have any proof of that?

As far as his lifestyle, he has enough money to live how he does without this. He may charge for his speeches, but welcome to America. I didn't hear anyone crying when Regan got paid some ridiculous amount for a speech.
The purpose of the organization is to spend millions shuttling Gore around the world in lavish hotels and private jets to talk about climate change. I don't know where to start on providing proof when it's all right there on his website.
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:15 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
His share of the revenue goes to the charity. Paramount is doing the 5% on their own.

Proof that he's illegally taking money from this organization to pay for his "lavish lifestyle"?

this is real easy, just have the organization disclose their form 990...but hmm, they probably wont, because this 501c3 is not an independent...it is under the shelter of "The Alliance for Climate Protection, a special project of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors" exact quote form the bottom of their page...


you see, this is not the normal church across the street...those would have to disclose key salaried employees...but if it is a project of, it is not part of...thus sheltered two levels within...hmmmm

but jsut for kicks and grins...lets look at key salaries of a few well known enviro groups...and for the record...rarely is the chairman paid less than the CEO...

Environmental Defense Fund
Budget: $25.4 million
Staff: 160
Members: 300,000
Salary of CEO: $262,000, including benefits

National Audubon Society
Budget: $44.9 million
Staff: 300
Members: 550,000
CEO Salary: More than $180,000 including benefits

National Wildlife Federation
Budget: $80 million
Staff: 600
Members: 5 million
CEO salary: More than $180,000 including benefits

National Resources Defense Council
Budget: $27.5 million
Staff: 172
Members: 350,000
CEO salary: More than $200,000, including benefits
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:16 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
The purpose of the organization is to spend millions shuttling Gore around the world in lavish hotels and private jets to talk about climate change. I don't know where to start on providing proof when it's all right there on his website.
Candidates in rural states take private jets when running for office, its just a matter of having to be at many places in a short amount of time while working with a team, movement leaders are basically required to do such things if they are demanded as much as Gore is...

And the hotels, please, Gore's estate could easily cover the hotels, he does not avoid Miami and instead plan his presentation in a resort in the Virgin Islands, despite the picture you are trying to paint

I guess he should give up buying new suits and stick to sweat pants and a shirt, after all he's for reducing C02 why doesn't he walk around unwashed and operating his entire movement from one motel to the next...makes perfect sense

Reagan was against enriching our rivers with beautiful toxic waste, only to hurt corporate america, why didn't he live like a pauper?
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Capitalism. Welcome to it.

You have shown nothing to prove he's taking money from his organization and putting it in his pocket.

I am not the one proping him up to be a person of character to be trusted...


I am not the one saying he is doing this for charity...and giving his money away...

I have no problem at all with making money...but misleading his minions to think he is giving...that is reprehensible!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I didn't hear anyone crying when Regan got paid some ridiculous amount for a speech.

for the record that is Reagan...and well, lets see...President Reagan, hmmm most popular president...saw communism fall...

wait...I got it...where is the but but Reagan button...

got to love double sided arguments...


Reagan also never said he was giving all his money away...
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:00 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by MTdream View Post


Reagan also never said he was giving all his money away...
Gore did?!?
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:33 PM   #51
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Gore did?!?
Apparently he's gone from moderate Democrat to a crazy communist...viva la revolution!
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Gore did?!?
sorry are you in this thread? do you even follow your own thought patterns?
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:52 PM   #53
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Gore is donating all of his money from the film to The Alliance for Climate Protection.

He doesn't make a dime.
is either a clever use of word film, or directly misleading as the "film" does nto really cover DVD sales, book rights, personal visits which he will get paid to promote film, speeches about the film..but wait, he is donating "...all his money from the film" yeah right...


"donating" all of his money to an organization he is Chairman of...howwwww philanthropic of him...and I am sure he is not taking a salary...but since it is a shell organization for the rockefeller foundation...chances are we will never see a form 990 for them (discloses key personnel salary and benefits)



Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
His share of the revenue goes to the charity. Paramount is doing the 5% on their own.

Proof that he's illegally taking money from this organization to pay for his "lavish lifestyle"?

cute way to phrase this, but pretending gore is being philanthropic is a complete sham...

for review sake...

he claims to donate all to charity...yet is his charity,which he is chairman of...

he claims to be doing carbon off sets for his energy use...fails to mention it is his company he is paying...well really increasing his stock in...and the company he is giving money to is really just a venture fund...


yeah...I see why we should not question him...he is a pillar of saintly behavior...and generous giving!!!!
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:18 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by MTdream View Post
is either a clever use of word film, or directly misleading as the "film" does nto really cover DVD sales, book rights, personal visits which he will get paid to promote film, speeches about the film..but wait, he is donating "...all his money from the film" yeah right...
There is no trick to what I typed. He's donating his proceeds to the charity.

Now you are trying to pin other things into my statement. No dice.


Originally Posted by MTdream View Post
"donating" all of his money to an organization he is Chairman of...howwwww philanthropic of him...and I am sure he is not taking a salary...but since it is a shell organization for the rockefeller foundation...chances are we will never see a form 990 for them (discloses key personnel salary and benefits)
So you have nothing. That's what I figured.






Originally Posted by MTdream View Post
cute way to phrase this, but pretending gore is being philanthropic is a complete sham...

for review sake...

he claims to donate all to charity...yet is his charity,which he is chairman of...

he claims to be doing carbon off sets for his energy use...fails to mention it is his company he is paying...well really increasing his stock in...and the company he is giving money to is really just a venture fund...


yeah...I see why we should not question him...he is a pillar of saintly behavior...and generous giving!!!!
So more speculation with zero to back it up. It's like a repeating cycle.
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:21 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
There is no trick to what I typed. He's donating his proceeds to the charity.

Now you are trying to pin other things into my statement. No dice.

So you have nothing. That's what I figured.

So more speculation with zero to back it up. It's like a repeating cycle.

at least he's into recycling
 
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:21 PM   #56
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at least he's into recycling
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
at least he's into recycling
I don't care who you are that there is funny.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
There is no trick to what I typed. He's donating his proceeds to the charity.

Now you are trying to pin other things into my statement. No dice.


So you have nothing. That's what I figured.



So more speculation with zero to back it up. It's like a repeating cycle.


thanks...I got a great chuckle out of that circlular reasoning...


gore donates money to a charity he started...anyone else having flash backs to the "Human Fund" with George kostanza?

Gore claims moral high ground by investing in his own company...ROFL...nah, that is not evidence if complete chicanery...

er wait...it is just three card monty...

best part of it...great big laugh...but no worries...

I might someday start a charity and give money to it, and then right off my "charitable donations" and then take a salary from my charity, for a little more than what i gave it...but they will funnel that money through another organization who will then...ahh never mind...

wait...we could come out with a new global warming coat...would protect from Co2...

it would be the Gore Fleece...oh wait...he is already doing that...
 
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