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Old 03-21-2007, 02:26 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
so... Bush is an economic conservative?
No, but you can be damn sure Murdoch is.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:27 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
No, but you can be damn sure Murdoch is.
perhaps with his money
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:29 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
perhaps with his money
Anybody who thinks FNC is the mouthpiece of the GOP or this administration is a fool.
 
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Because liberals only attack non-liberal news media for not spreading their message and don't really care about media bias. If they did they'd be bitching about CNN as much as they bitch about FOX.

But you notice, they only bitch about FOX. Conservatives havden'[t even complained as much about CNN's bias. But they don't complain about FOX as well.

Basically is rally more partisan shit than any real interest in ethical news production, in true fairness of the media, except as how they can use it against their political opponents.
I think most major news sources are biased in some way. Fox leans conservative and CNN and MSNBC are more liberal.

It's interesting to me to read a top news story from all three sources and see how they report it differently.

There was this one story that was a very liberal news piece and I remember when i went onto Fox to see what they said about it, it wasn't even on there. dang if I can remember what it was though.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:37 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Anybody who thinks FNC is the mouthpiece of the GOP or this administration is a fool.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:37 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
do you remember the fox news poll about Bush's SOTU this past January?
What does that have to do with this thread showing a study that was done 3 years ago? I guess he ran out of dead American soldier stories to post.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:37 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
What does that have to do with this thread showing a study that was done 3 years ago? I guess he ran out of dead American soldier stories to post.
yep, 94% approval of the SOTU according to FNC.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:41 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
yep, 94% approval of the SOTU according to FNC.
So was this a scientific poll or was it a go to the website and press a button poll?
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:45 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
So was this a scientific poll or was it a go to the website and press a button poll?


are you honestly trying to weasel around the points?


stay on topic, this isn't about comparing them to scientific polls, it's about the polls they are releasing.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:53 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post


are you honestly trying to weasel around the points?


stay on topic, this isn't about comparing them to scientific polls, it's about the polls they are releasing.
Do you have a link?
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post


are you honestly trying to weasel around the points?


stay on topic, this isn't about comparing them to scientific polls, it's about the polls they are releasing.
So what you are saying is you want to trust a poll that you can set up a script for that will select an answer 50 times a minute? Because you want to hate Fox, right?

Non-scientific polls are just that. There is no value statistically to them what-so-ever.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Do you have a link?
to the SOTU poll?

sorry, it's 85%.

here's the poll, the clip isn't important and not part of what I'm talking about

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:01 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
So what you are saying is you want to trust a poll that you can set up a script for that will select an answer 50 times a minute? Because you want to hate Fox, right?

Non-scientific polls are just that. There is no value statistically to them what-so-ever.



that's not what this thread is about. If you don't understand it just don't post.
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:04 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post


are you honestly trying to weasel around the points?


stay on topic, this isn't about comparing them to scientific polls, it's about the polls they are releasing.
It's an automated poll through a text messaging system...

They didn't push this as a scientific poll. They showed it as a user poll based on text messaging, which is what it was. It was the first time they used the service. And it was done during a Hannity Segment. If they were to ask how Bush did during an Olbermann segment what do you think the results would be? Possibly skewed?
 
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:07 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
It's an automated poll through a text messaging system...

They didn't push this as a scientific poll. They showed it as a user poll based on text messaging, which is what it was. It was the first time they used the service. And it was done during a Hannity Segment. If they were to ask how Bush did during an Olbermann segment what do you think the results would be? Possibly skewed?
thanks, you've stated what I've been trying to say
 
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
thanks, you've stated what I've been trying to say
What point was that? People who listen to Hannity tend to support Bush?
 
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Because liberals only attack non-liberal news media for not spreading their message and don't really care about media bias. If they did they'd be bitching about CNN as much as they bitch about FOX.

But you notice, they only bitch about FOX. Conservatives havden'[t even complained as much about CNN's bias. But they don't complain about FOX as well.

Basically is rally more partisan shit than any real interest in ethical news production, in true fairness of the media, except as how they can use it against their political opponents.
Fox isn't a news outlet. It gets bitched about because it's all propaganda.

Liberals don't attack foxnews. People with half a fucking brain do.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Fox has a bias which makes it enticing for conservatives to view. I think their news programs are less bias than most of the competition, but they run a lot of conservative opinion shows that get really good ratings. And I think that is where the majority slant comes into play.
I disagree. They are brainwashing people. Every show on Fox is opinion. That's how they claim to be "fair and balanced".
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I disagree. They are brainwashing people. Every show on Fox is opinion. That's how they claim to be "fair and balanced".
I love how people say Fox News brainwashes people, but college campuses, liberal outlets, etc dont.

People watch Fox News opinion shows because they agree with the opinions. People watch Olbermann because they agree with his opinions. O'Rielly doesn't brainwash people anymore than Olbermann does. It's one station that has a slant, but people choose to tune into it because they already agree with the slant.

To a degree they're having their opinions fortified and shaped, but no more than listening to other liberal opinion shows or hell even non-news programming like the Oscars.
 
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I disagree. They a