Al Gore should be in jail, not giving testimony or making movies - Page 2

7960 · 03-22-2007, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

From your own link:

You've said just recently yourself.. do you have anything showing illegal activity? No.

Only his words. He knew fund raising at a temple was illegal. HE SAID he knew there would be fund raising at the temple.

if a = b and b = c the a = c

He knew what he did was illegal.

He invented the internet

That one *could* be excused because he did have a big part in funding the research. I didn't say anything about that one. I laugh that you're ignoring the other ones, though. Or did his mother really sing him to sleep when he was 27?

seriously, I think you have some kind of unresolved issues with an ex-politician that you need to sort out. You don't see me bitching about Dan Quale, Bob Dole, or even George HW Bush..because it's a waste of time.

But today none of them are being called a prophet(link, mp3).

thomez · 03-22-2007, 09:24 AM

can anyone expand on the malaria thing or provide a link? I'm just curious, would like to read about that

7960 · 03-22-2007, 09:48 AM

OpinionJournal - Featured Article

Mr. Gore says that global warming will increase malaria and highlights Nairobi as his key case. According to him, Nairobi was founded right where it was too cold for malaria to occur. However, with global warming advancing, he tells us that malaria is now appearing in the city. Yet this is quite contrary to the World Health Organization's finding. Today Nairobi is considered free of malaria, but in the 1920s and '30s, when temperatures were lower than today, malaria epidemics occurred regularly. Mr. Gore's is a convenient story, but isn't it against the facts?

thomez · 03-22-2007, 10:02 AM

Well his example for malaria spreading very well could be a poor one or completely false, but the idea that if the globe warms up, areas susceptible to malaria will increase, is pretty well established I thought...

The individual situation in Nairobi or any other nation with regards to malaria is very complex, a simple glance at the thermometer will not tell us anything about if malaria will or will not be present there at any one time.

7960 · 03-22-2007, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

Well his example for malaria spreading very well could be a poor one or completely false, but the idea that if the globe warms up, areas susceptible to malaria will increase, is pretty well established I thought...

The individual situation in Nairobi or any other nation with regards to malaria is very complex, a simple glance at the thermometer will not tell us anything about if malaria will or will not be present there at any one time.

Except that it's an outright lie.

Nairobi has malaria in the '20s, before "global warming" and currently Nairobi is considered malaria-free.

So, if he's saying "This is true and here's my evidence" but his evidence is a complete fabrication, what can we say about his original assertion?

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Only his words. He knew fund raising at a temple was illegal. HE SAID he knew there would be fund raising at the temple.

if a = b and b = c the a = c

He knew what he did was illegal.

again, there has been no evidence to convict on anything, so just because it was shady doesn't mean we should lock him up.

That one *could* be excused because he did have a big part in funding the research. I didn't say anything about that one. I laugh that you're ignoring the other ones, though. Or did his mother really sing him to sleep when he was 27?

But today none of them are being called a prophet(link, mp3).

Ignoring? Should I be concerned? Honestly what's the difference between him an Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, Cindy Sheenan, or any other politico?

7960 · 03-22-2007, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

again, there has been no evidence to convict on anything, so just because it was shady doesn't mean we should lock him up.

Wow. Not being locked up for it doesn't mean he what he did was legal.......... ESPECIALLY considering that he confessed that HE KNEW it was ILLEGAL.

Ignoring? Should I be concerned? Honestly what's the difference between him an Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, Cindy Sheenan, or any other politico?

When did I say I liked or agreed with anything Moore, Coulter, Sheenan (Sheehan?), or any other politico has said or done?

I'm talking about Gore and why he's a piece of shit not worth listening to. If you want to talk about any of the others feel free to start a thread.

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Wow. Not being locked up for it doesn't mean he what he did was legal.......... ESPECIALLY considering that he confessed that he knew it WAS illegal.

You are really blowing the thing out of proportion especially when you don't even know all the evidence.

again, it was investigated... probably much more thoroughly than you can do searching on the internet.. and there was nothing to prove what he did was illegal.

let it go.

When did I say I liked or agreed with anything Moore, Coulter, Sheenan (Sheehan?), or any other politico has said or done?

I never said you did

I'm talking about Gore and why he's a piece of shit not worth listening to. If you want to talk about any of the others feel free to start a thread.

Just like Moore, coulter, and SHEEHAN.

7960 · 03-22-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

You are really blowing the thing out of proportion especially when you don't even know all the evidence.

again, it was investigated... probably much more thoroughly than you can do searching on the internet.. and there was nothing to prove what he did was illegal.

let it go.

Let it go? Al Gore said

"...he Realized Gathering at Temple Was 'Finance-Related'"

Al Gore knew if it was finance-related then it was illegal. They may not have been able to prove it but if Gore is saying he knew it then he is also saying he knew he was breaking the law.

Not being convicted (or even indicted) doesn't mean you didn't do it.

I never said you did

Then why did you bring up something completely unrelated to this topic?

Just like Moore, coulter, and SHEEHAN.

Again, why bring them up since they're not even remotely related to this discussion?

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Let it go? Al Gore said

"...he Realized Gathering at Temple Was 'Finance-Related'"

Al Gore knew if it was finance-related then it was illegal. They may not have been able to prove it but if Gore is saying he knew it then he is also saying he knew he was breaking the law.

Not being convicted (or even indicted) doesn't mean you didn't do it.

I'm not going to repeat myself.

Then why did you bring up something completely unrelated to this topic?

Again, why bring them up since they're not even remotely related to this discussion?

It's not unrelated, sure he's an ex VP... however he's radical/extremist/alarmist in his views, just as those other figures. They're very related. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the analogy, I figured you'd see it.

7960 · 03-22-2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

I'm not going to repeat myself.

Good, and I'll stop repeating myself. So we have Gore admitting what he did was illegal...where do we go from here?

It's not unrelated, sure he's an ex VP... however he's radical/extremist/alarmist in his views, just as those other figures. They're very related. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the analogy, I figured you'd see it.

I know you're saying they're all pieces of shit who shouldn't be believed but bringing them into this is really just derailing the conversation.

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Good, and I'll stop repeating myself. So we have Gore admitting what he did was illegal...where do we go from here?

I know you're saying they're all pieces of shit who shouldn't be believed but bringing them into this is really just derailing the conversation.

ok I'm done...you don't want to even discuss this issue, you just want to bitch.

whatever.

jimeigh · 03-22-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

good point.....

1994, arafat, rabin, perez

/credibility.

stanley "tookie" williams had also been nominated for it. shit's ridiculous.

7960 · 03-22-2007, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

ok I'm done...you don't want to even discuss this issue, you just want to bitch.

whatever.

What do you mean I don't want to discuss it? I made the thread!

You're saying if I go 100mph but the cop didn't have his radar gun on that I wasn't speeding??!!!?? Of course I was speeding, of course I broke the law. The cop being able to PROVE it is completely different, but the fact is the fact...I broke the law.

Gore............. temple.............. fund raising.............. he knew, so he knew it was illegal. The prosecutor not being able to PROVE it is completely different. But even Gore admitted HE KNEW! So he admitted HE BROKE THE LAW.

How can this not be making sense??

thomez · 03-22-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Except that it's an outright lie.

Nairobi has malaria in the '20s, before "global warming" and currently Nairobi is considered malaria-free.

So, if he's saying "This is true and here's my evidence" but his evidence is a complete fabrication, what can we say about his original assertion?

That's basically exactly what I said

"his example for malaria spreading very well could be a poor one or completely false"

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

What do you mean I don't want to discuss it? I made the thread!

You're saying if I go 100mph but the cop didn't have his radar gun on that I wasn't speeding??!!!?? Of course I was speeding, of course I broke the law. The cop being able to PROVE it is completely different, but the fact is the fact...I broke the law.

Gore............. temple.............. fund raising.............. he knew, so he knew it was illegal. The prosecutor not being able to PROVE it is completely different. But even Gore admitted HE KNEW! So he admitted HE BROKE THE LAW.

How can this not be making sense??

he was investigated and was not charged.

end of story.

Give it up. You act as though he's the only politician that does shady fundraising.

7960 · 03-22-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

he was investigated and was not charged.

end of story.

Your life must be very simple.

Give it up. You act as though he's the only politician that does shady fundraising.

He's asking me to take his word that global warming is the huge issue he's saying it is. But he's done nothing but lie, cheat, take credit for things he didn't do or take too much credit for things he was only minimally involved with. I'd say he's got a credibility problem.

Pro Street · 03-22-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Your life must be very simple.

He's asking me to take his word that global warming is the huge issue he's saying it is. But he's done nothing but lie, cheat, take credit for things he didn't do or take too much credit for things he was only minimally involved with. I'd say he's got a credibility problem.

My life isn't simple, I just believe in innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until he looks guilty.

the only people that really care about Gore are the ones who have posted 5+ topics on him in the past few days

7960 · 03-22-2007, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

My life isn't simple, I just believe in innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until he looks guilty.

This has nothing to do with guilt or innocence and everything to do with his credibility. I guess according to you if I smack you in the head with a bat and there are no witnesses then you really didn't get hit

the only people that really care about Gore are the ones who have posted 5+ topics on him in the past few days

I only care that people are taking a liars words as gospel. I'm not even saying he's wrong! I'm just saying it seems to be turning out that the "prophet" of the global warming issue isn't exactly the messiah they and he are making him out to be.