Inhofe quotes Gore: Are you ready to change the way you live?

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 05:49 PM

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&Conte ntRecord_id=7616011f-802a-23ad-435e-887baa7069ca

GORE REFUSES TO TAKE PERSONAL ENERGY ETHICS PLEDGE

WASHINGTON, DC – Former Vice President Al Gore refused to take a “Personal Energy Ethics Pledge” today to consume no more energy than the average American household. The pledge was presented to Gore by Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, during today’s global warming hearing.

Senator Inhofe showed Gore a film frame from “An Inconvenient Truth” where it asks viewers: “Are you ready to change the way you live?”

Gore has been criticized for excessive home energy usage at his residence in Tennessee. His electricity usage is reportedly 20 times higher than the average American household.

It has been reported that many of these so-called carbon offset projects would have been done anyway. Also, carbon offset projects such as planting trees can take decades or even a century to sequester the carbon emitted today. So energy usage today results in greenhouse gases remaining in the atmosphere for decades, even with the purchase of so-called carbon offsets.

“There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,” Senator Inhofe told Gore.

“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?” Senator Inhofe asked.

Senator Inhofe then presented Vice President Gore with the following "Personal Energy Ethics Pledge:
As a believer:
· that human-caused global warming is a moral, ethical, and spiritual issue affecting our survival;

· that home energy use is a key component of overall energy use;

· that reducing my fossil fuel-based home energy usage will lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions; and

· that leaders on moral issues should lead by example;

I pledge to consume no more energy for use in my residence than the average American household by March 21, 2008.”

Gore refused to take the pledge.

Al Gore decided to not give EPW his testimony before appearing. This pissed off many of the EPW members and he was accused of "delaying the submission of his testimony until the very last moment because he fears it will give members of the EPW committee time to scrutinize it for accuracy"

The Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee Inhofe was not amused. In fact, he decided to show Gore for what he was. He presented Gore with a clip from his own film:

Are you ready to change the way you live? He asked Gore if he was ready to change the way he lives. Al Gore's energy use is 20x more than the average American.

Inhofe decided to make Al Gore eat his own words. Al Gore keeps saying it's not a political issue, it's a moral and ethical issue. So Inhofe decided to put it to the test. He asked Gore if he would take a Personal Energy Ethics Pledge. The pledge states:

Essentially he asks Gore to put his money where his mouth is. He told Gore that leaders on moral issues should lead by example.

GORE REFUSED!!

Gore looks like a schmuck after this.

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 06:02 PM

.: U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works :: Minority Page :.

Thank you for holding this hearing, Madame Chairman, and to you also, Mr. Vice President, for agreeing to come before our Committee to testify about your perspectives. Your views are already known to many Americans, but today will allow us to engage in a dialogue which should be interesting.

It is my perspective that your global warming alarmist pronouncements are now and have always been filled with inaccuracies and misleading statements. Many of the peer-reviewed studies published in such journals as Nature, Geophysical Research Letters, and Science are radically at odds with your claims. I do not have time to delve into each flaw with your movie, but I do want to touch on just 2.

First, you have claimed that there is a “strong, new emerging consensus” linking global warming to an increase in hurricane intensity and duration. Yet last year, the World Meteorological Organization very clearly rejected this assertion, and other scientists agree.

Secondly, you said that East Antarctica might melt and this could raise sea levels by 20 feet, so we’re all going to die. However, according to many scientists, Antarctica is gaining ice mass, not losing it. In a 2005 study published in Science a team of researchers led by Dr. Curt Davis found an overall gain in ice mass in Antarctica over a ten year period.

And the public is catching on. Even the New York Times last week published an article about scientists, many of them your supporters, who say you have overstated your case on global warming — in fact, they warn that you may be hurting the so-called cause with your "alarmism."

Given that, it is no wonder you have turned down the chance to debate the President of the Czech Republic, Vaclav Klaus. And now I understand a debate challenge has been issued by Lord Monckton of Benchley.

Now there is a reason for this.

When the debate is balanced, skeptics win, alarmists lose. In New York last week, for instance, a major debate took place to examine whether global warming is a crisis. Prior to the debate, the hand-wringers, the alarmists, in the audience outnumbered those who didn’t think it was a crisis 2 to 1. After the debate, the alarmists were outnumbered – a major turnaround in beliefs in a single night.

That shift mirrors a larger one taking place in the scientific community. Claude Allegre, a French geophysicist – Nir Shaviv, an Israeli astrophysicist – and meteorologist Reid Bryson have converted from alarmists to believing that climate variability is largely natural. In short, the ranks of converted scientists are skyrocketing.

Lastly, the cost: Global warming is now big business. Thousands of individuals and even some Fortune 100 companies stand to make tens of billions of dollars.

I was on the floor opposing the ’93 Clinton-Gore tax increase of $32 billion, but the cost of Kyoto and other CO2 reduction schemes are estimated to be over $300 billion, ten times the cost of your ’93 tax increase. And who’s paying for it? Those on fixed incomes and the poor, who as a percent of their monthly budget spend five times more on energy than the average household.

Largest tax increase in history – 10 times Clinton-Gore of ’93 and the poor pay for it… and the science isn’t there. We just can’t do that to America, Mr. Vice President… and we’re not gonna.

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 06:05 PM

Video:

YouTube Video

ballz2wallz · 03-21-2007, 06:08 PM

Gore refused to take the pledge.

Gore refused to take the pledge.

Gore refused to take the pledge.

Gore refused to take the pledge.

ballz2wallz · 03-21-2007, 06:14 PM

Here's Boxer goin off on Inhofe afterwards, and here's what Allah had to say about it

Oh, long shall this glorious moment of fightin’ fightiness live in the annals of nutroots fighty fightingdom!

For those wondering if CNN is liberally biased or not, notice the 'good for her' at the end of the video clip

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 06:19 PM

When I watching it I saw them giving Gore all the time in the world to respond and limiting the GOP. But he was their guest speaker so I don't really have a problem with it. And I think that's what Inhofe was responding to. It was getting pretty absurd. Boxer was constantly granting Gore more and more time than he was allotted and preventing people from giving him hardball questions when they were supposed to be allowed to. It really was a circus. Gore didn't turn in his testimony so he couldn't be scrutinized and Boxer shielded him constantly throughout. It was getting absurd and I think Inhofe was getting pretty annoyed by it.

ballz2wallz · 03-21-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

When I watching it I saw them giving Gore all the time in the world to respond and limiting the GOP. But he was their guest speaker so I don't really have a problem with it. And I think that's what Inhofe was responding to. It was getting pretty absurd. Boxer was constantly granting Gore more and more time than he was allotted and preventing people from giving him hardball questions when they were supposed to be allowed to. It really was a circus. Gore didn't turn in his testimony so he couldn't be scrutinized and Boxer shielded him constantly throughout. It was getting absurd and I think Inhofe was getting pretty annoyed by it.

And Boxer was rubbing it in every step of the way.

As CNN says "good for her", right?

Roonie · 03-21-2007, 08:21 PM

wow....... this is an intense circle jerk you guys have going here. Not that I am a Gore advocate but after reading this I think he might just be the anti-christ. I think it might be time to give yourselves some loven for this.

Thorgrim · 03-21-2007, 08:37 PM

It's a serious joke, Imhofe believes ALL global warming is a GIANT HOAX

"satellite data, confirmed by NOAA balloon measurements, confirms that no meaningful warming has occurred over the last century."
James M. Inhofe - U.S. Senator - Oklahoma

In a 2006 interview with the Tulsa World newspaper, Inhofe compared environmentalists to Nazis. He said, "It kind of reminds... I could use the Third Reich, the Big Lie... You say something over and over and over and over again, and people will believe it, and that's their [the environmentalists'] strategy... A hot summer has nothing to do with global warming. Let's keep in mind it was just three weeks ago that people were saying, 'Wait a minute; it is unusually cool...." He then said, "Everything on which they [the environmentalists] based their story, in terms of the facts, has been refuted scientifically."[12] Inhofe had previously compared the Environmental Protection Agency to the Gestapo.[13] He had also made allegations that the Weather Channel is behind the alleged global warming hoax, so as to attract viewers.[14][15] Inhofe had previously claimed that Global Warming is "the second-largest hoax ever played on the American people, after the separation of church and state."[16]
-wiki...the links are solid

Now that we've established he has no idea what he is talking about (he couldn't even remember its west antartica not east antartica) and just hates global warming scientists with the passion of 1000 suns

We get back to the house issue...which was beaten to death several times over...he runs several businesses and organizations out of his house, it is also a rather large estate, and he takes every measure possible to reduce his energy use and eliminate his carbon footprint

This is just Gore hatred for no real reason, if you ever heard him speak he's always said we should move towards conservation and try to make a difference, he didn't say we should force people to turn off the lights when they leave the house or they pay a fine, you guys are acting like he's asking for fascist restrictions on your rights

I've heard conservatives on here say they believe in GW, believe man has a role, and it could hurt the environment, but they're not sure how much...well hey if it could HURT OUR PLANET why aren't you all driving hybrids and reading with candle light? You hypocrits, JaJae ban them all!

ballz2wallz · 03-21-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I've heard conservatives on here say they believe in GW, believe man has a role, and it could hurt the environment, but they're not sure how much...well hey if it could HURT OUR PLANET why aren't you all driving hybrids and reading with candle light? You hypocrits, JaJae ban them all!

Global warming isn't a partisan issue

MTdream · 03-21-2007, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

We get back to the house issue...which was beaten to death several times over...he runs several businesses and organizations out of his house, it is also a rather large estate, and he takes every measure possible to reduce his energy use and eliminate his carbon footprint

you dont actually believe what you just typed do you?

Sorry, still laughing so hard...

"Gore buys carbon off-sets"...from his own company..but he doesnt really buy carbon off-sets...he is investing to get stock in his own company...which is a venture fund...

sorry that doesnt even pass the blind blush test...complete chicanary...

"He takes every measure he can"...please...if this were even remotely possibly conceivably true...why jet set around the country (private or commercial)

why not be ecologically sound and do these as Webinars?

nah, couldnt be because of cash....

Why not just set timers at his houses yes houses...the one that has gotten all the press, is not his only house...and not his only mansion...

Nah couldnt have anything to do with hypocrisy...

Why start a global concert to raise awareness, and jet set musicians all over the globe to burn fule, burn resources, create garbage etc.

why not create a live web concert? it would be ecologically friendly...it would not create more c02
nah couldnt be because of the money he will make off it...

this guy is a complete charlatan...practicing chicanary and it is incredibly comical that anyone would refer to him as a ~~prophet~~...er profit....sorry...still getting used to this forum...

MTdream · 03-21-2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

(he couldn't even remember its west antartica not east antartica)

yeah, not sure you want to discuss the differences here...it is the issue that shoots the GW paranoia in the head...

east =85% of area...roughly 90% of the Global ice...is expanding (complete concurence)

and about Greenland...

The last 3 studies have all predicted lower and lower loss of ice...with the last report saying...hmmm the two largest Glaciers in Greenland gained mass...yet they back off on that, as it is a small cycle size...yet the previous report, was lauded...yet had same cycle sample...nah, there is not double talk on these issues...nah...it is conclusive...it is concensus...

and blathering about glaciers melting in himalayas is proof of global warming...except wait...they are expanding...but this too is proof of global warming...er wait...we didnt predict taht though...except until it happened...

but we dont want to talk about the following

100 new glaciers in Colorado (USGS)
Mt Shasta expands despite warming (USGS)
Mt Baker
Mt. Shasta
Mcginnis in Alaska
Nisqually
Canada (Helm, and Place)
Pakistan
New Zealand glaciers expanding
Norwegian glaciers expanding
Ecuador
South America
glaciers expanding onn nearly every continent...hmmm

oh but ignore the facts...lets run around and scream and holler...

Simius · 03-21-2007, 10:40 PM

Has Sen. James Inhofe taken the Personal Energy Ethics Pledge that he wants Gore to take?

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

Has Sen. James Inhofe taken the Personal Energy Ethics Pledge that he wants Gore to take?

Not sure, but he's not the one telling people to change their lifestyle.

Simius · 03-21-2007, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Not sure, but he's not the one telling people to change their lifestyle.

You have to forgive me if I'm wrong... (because I haven't paid much attention to Gore since he lost in 2000) But I don't think Gore has called for people to limit their energy consumption to what the average American uses. I don't think he has even asked people to make big changes in their lifestyle. My take on what Gore is asking for is for people to make small changes (more efficient light bulbs, green energy, recycle, etc) that if everyone followed those changes, would help in a big way overall.

If Gore isn't asking others to make radical changes, isn't it kind of a straw man argument to criticize Gore for not making radical changes in his own energy consumption?

Thorgrim · 03-21-2007, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

If Gore isn't asking others to make radical changes, isn't it kind of a straw man argument to criticize Gore for not making radical changes in his own energy consumption?

Fucking WORD, praise jesus !

JaJae · 03-21-2007, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

You have to forgive me if I'm wrong... (because I haven't paid much attention to Gore since he lost in 2000) But I don't think Gore has called for people to limit their energy consumption to what the average American uses. I don't think he has even asked people to make big changes in their lifestyle. My take on what Gore is asking for is for people to make small changes (more efficient light bulbs, green energy, recycle, etc) that if everyone followed those changes, would help in a big way overall.

If Gore isn't asking others to make radical changes, isn't it kind of a straw man argument to criticize Gore for not making radical changes in his own energy consumption?

He is asking people to change the way they live, make lifestyle changes. Buying carbon offsets and replacing light bulbs isn't changing the way you live. The point was to show that Gore is unwilling to truly conserve. The fact is Bush (outside of his presidential requirements) could fulfill this requirement. Gore has the money and the means to lower his carbon consumption if he wanted to (and as he suggests us to do). Yet he flat out refuses. George Bush does it voluntarily, Gore refuses. I think it shows a lot about his character. He's the one trying to get us to make lifestyle changes. I think he should lead by example. He has the means to, he just doesn't have the will. He's not asking Gore to change his energy use, he's just asking him to do it in a more environmentally friendly way which he has the money and means to do. He won't.

MTdream · 03-21-2007, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Simius

You have to forgive me if I'm wrong... (because I haven't paid much attention to Gore since he lost in 2000) But I don't think Gore has called for people to limit their energy consumption to what the average American uses. I don't think he has even asked people to make big changes in their lifestyle. My take on what Gore is asking for is for people to make small changes (more efficient light bulbs, green energy, recycle, etc) that if everyone followed those changes, would help in a big way overall.

If Gore isn't asking others to make radical changes, isn't it kind of a straw man argument to criticize Gore for not making radical changes in his own energy consumption?

yeah, you might want to listen to what Gore has been saying...

Gore says it is a global crisis epic proportions...catastrophic changes must be made...

so....this mean convert one light bulb and we are all good? ok, well I am good...I wear a citizen eco drive watch...heck if you want you can get teh time from me, adn get credit for all your pollution...