Current Money Numbers in 2006 Election

[Thorgrim]

Cliffs: GOP has less than a 9 million lead, which is super-low compared to previous years when the GOP blew the Dems out of the water

$91.1 million to $80.6 million

Specifics:

The House

NRCC

June Receipts: $9,544,655
June Disbursements: $5,014,981
Cash on hand: $26,492,809

DCCC

June Receipts: $9.8 million
June Disbursements: (Unknown as of this post)
Cash on hand: $32 million

The Senate

NRSC

June Receipts: $4.8 million
June Disbursements: (Unknown as of this post)
Cash on hand: $19.9 million

DSCC

June Receipts: $8.8 million
June Disbursements: $4.6 million
Cash on hand: $37.7 million

The Parties

RNC

June Receipts: $8,967,429
June Disbursements: $7,415,741
Cash on hand: $44,681,057

DNC

June Receipts: $5,883,982
June Disbursements: $5,375,270
Cash on hand: $10,849,337



I think Dean's 50 state strategy is a great idea, its a shame so many fat cats don't agree...so Dems are killing the GOP in the NRCC and NRSC elections but losing in the DNC-RNC badly

However 81 mil to 90 mil...compared to the past I love those numbers

[motivez]

Can you post the previous numbers?

I think it's interesting that they're having to spend so much money in areas they usually wouldn't. That really limits what they're able to do in other places.. Dean's strategy seems like it's a pretty fantastic financial move.

[Thorgrim]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/resources/fec.reports/

best numbers i can find on quick notice

Bush had a 2-1 advantage in money over Gore

Now its a 9 to 8...clearly much better

[TekDragon]

I, for one, did not donate anything to the RNC this year - although I have been offering a marketing service to the NRA and a few local elections.

Until the Republicans cut down on pork barrel spending I cannot support them to the previous levels. That said, I will continue voting republican as the issues I care about:

Taxes
Unemployment
Economy
Security

... the Republicans have all been doing well on

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by TekDragon

I, for one, did not donate anything to the RNC this year - although I have been offering a marketing service to the NRA and a few local elections.

Until the Republicans cut down on pork barrel spending I cannot support them to the previous levels. That said, I will continue voting republican as the issues I care about:

Taxes
Unemployment
Economy
Security

... the Republicans have all been doing well on

I feel similar, the rampant spending has got to end I have not given them a dime since 2002

[motivez]

I don't know that I would say the Republicans have been doing a good job on Security

Every analysis we have out there shows that in reality, we're not much more secure than we were before 9/11, if at all. All of the money that has been spent hasn't gotten us much of anything aside from a nifty little kindergardener's color coded system that doesn't really mean anything

The major problems that existed that allowed this to happen in the first place are still there. Our borders are wide open, our ports are wide open, our intelligence still sucks (except when it comes to intelligence on American citizens and their phonecalls, emails, etc apparently).. and a whole host of other things have simply not been dealt with like they should have been for all the money we've been spending.

Then you have the idiotic division of the money, protecting things like the largest ball of string while denying attractive targets like NY money it should get

[TekDragon]

I feel much more secure. Al Quedae declared WAR on the US. Not "Hi! Here's a sucker punch and then we're hiding". They declared a jihad, and their declaration of war was 9/11.

Where is Al Quedae now? What was once the world's most organized and feared international terror group has had the vast majority of their tactical/logistical leadership killed or captured, their training grounds destroyed, their assets frozen, and their sphere of influence reduced from a world-wide coverage to barely being able to manage suicide bombers inside the Middle East.

In a decade or two the history books will look back on what occured during this administration, and they will acknowledge as being the time when powerful enemy of mankind was utterly crushed by the US and allies.

[motivez]

That feeling is nothing more than an illusion since the facts don't back it up.

As far as Al Qaeda, I don't think I'd call them a "powerful enemy", or that they were "utterly crushed", seeing how they still exist, are carrying out operations in Iraq, and their leader is still out there dragging around his kidney dialysis machine.

What they did on 9/11 isn't something a powerful enemy does. Their ability to be successful in that attack was the result of lax airline security and immigration policy, neither of which has significantly changed (see: news specials on being able to smuggle shit aboard planes)

They've had several successful operations since 9/11, although certainly none as shocking as that operation.. something that was at least a decade worth of planning.

Only time will tell whether or not they're capable of carrying out another attack in the US, but we haven't taken much of any steps to ensure our protection

[TekDragon]

How many attacks have we had on US soil since 9/11? Seems not 2-3 months go buy when I hear about another cell that gets broken up. I know "Well you need to wait longer" but seriously now. It's been 4 years since Al Quedae declared WAR on us. That's right: WAR.

I think we've been damn succesful.

[motivez]

How long was it inbetween attacks on the WTC?

This isn't a group that moves quickly or follows some predicted schedule for attacks.

[TekDragon]

Originally Posted by motivez

How long was it inbetween attacks on the WTC?

This isn't a group that moves quickly or follows some predicted schedule for attacks.

As I recall they didn't specifically declare war following the first WTC attack and they didn't specifically warn that it was going to be the first of many attacks as they did following 9/11.

[motivez]

Rhetoric that's a vast depature from known tactics should be taken as such.

Also, I should point out that doing some reading on many of these 'cells' that have been broken up have been completely home grown without real interaction with Al Qaeda, like the one in Miami.. and Canada.

[Thorgrim]

Al Qaeda was never the top terrorist group...Hezbollah was always better, they just didn't blow their resources because they are Israel-focused

[TekDragon]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Al Qaeda was never the top terrorist group...Hezbollah was always better, they just didn't blow their resources because they are Israel-focused

Assuming I accept your belief, then I hope Isreal continues. Then the history books will look back on this time as being where the top 2 terror groups were destroyed.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by TekDragon

Assuming I accept your belief, then I hope Isreal continues. Then the history books will look back on this time as being where the top 2 terror groups were destroyed.

How could Hezbollah possibly be destroyed?

We couldn't even destroy Al Qaeda, and the Israelis are going to kill off Hezbollah?

[motivez]

Hezbollah has much more than just a militant wing. They have schools, hospitals, services, etc.

They're quite popular in Lebanon. They won't be destroyed, though I'm sure their capacity to wage war will ultimately be reduced by the end of this war.

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by motivez

How long was it inbetween attacks on the WTC?

This isn't a group that moves quickly or follows some predicted schedule for attacks.

Missing a few attacks in between there.

Attack on the CIA building
LAX shooting
Two African embassies
US barracks in SA
USS Cole

[TekDragon]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

Missing a few attacks in between there.

Attack on the CIA building
LAX shooting
Two African embassies
US barracks in SA
USS Cole

Was there ever a 3 year period where we didn't have a terror attack on US property from 1992-2000?

[motivez]

US property overseas is a MUCH easier target than something on US soil.. and don't give me that technicality about how our embassy is American soil, because that's not what I mean obviously.

[TekDragon]

Originally Posted by motivez

and don't give me that technicality about how our embassy is American soil, because that's not what I mean obviously.

But I love that technicality