I really hope the democratic party jumps on the Lamont victory

kinggovernor · 08-09-2006, 09:59 AM

and moves to the left, it will ensure a republican victory in 2008

lew · 08-09-2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

and moves to the left

Now, if the Republican Party would split between the true conservatives and the neo-cons, we could have a great President in '08 possibly.

motivez · 08-09-2006, 10:06 AM

That's the same thing people were saying they wished would happen in '92 before the Republicans took over.. they were all about trying to be 'moderate' and 'middle of the road', and worried that the 'fringe of the party' was going to ruin their chances in the election

Look how that turned out. This is going to energize the Democratic base come election time, and they're going to turn out in droves.. and Republicans aren't going to have a big way to motivate their people.. doesn't look like the same old "oh my god! 2 boys kissing!" is really having that much of an impact this time.

ballz2wallz · 08-09-2006, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by lew

Now, if the Republican Party would split between the true conservatives and the neo-cons, we could have a great President in '08 possibly.

speaking of which, who would be the ideal candidate?

ballz2wallz · 08-09-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

That's the same thing people were saying they wished would happen in '92 before the Republicans took over.. they were all about trying to be 'moderate' and 'middle of the road', and worried that the 'fringe of the party' was going to ruin their chances in the election

Look how that turned out. This is going to energize the Democratic base come election time, and they're going to turn out in droves.. and Republicans aren't going to have a big way to motivate their people.. doesn't look like the same old "oh my god! 2 boys kissing!" is really having that much of an impact this time.

it's also the same thing democrats were saying last presidential election

lew · 08-09-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

speaking of which, who would be the ideal candidate?

Michael Jesus Archangel

STATUS: ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE. This gadfly candidate -- who also uses the name "Saint Michael Jesus the Archangel" (and was formerly named Philip Jesse Silva until he legally adopted the Archangel moniker in 1996) -- appears rather delusional. "From the time I was a little boy I knew I was God and Michael the Archangel, but I didn't dare tell anyone, not even anyone in my family because I knew that the devil, Satan, was going to try to murder Me, and indeed he did try, four separate times," he explains. He also writes a lot about "My Big Brother, Jesus Christ, Whose parents, My spouse the Blessed Virgin Mary Michelle and her guardian spouse, Saint Joseph." Archangel Michael wrote he was a Vietnam War veteran who attempted suicide when, he explains, he suffered from depression and paranoia; and later became a "a volunteer Secret Agent for the Central Intelligence Agency without pay." A former janitor, he is a self-employed "writer" these days. As for politics, he describes himself as a "Reagan Republican" -- but adds he has also briefly drifted in and out of the Libertarian Party twice over the years. Michael the Archangel says he is a "radical conservative Republican" who recognizes "the fact that America is an official Theocracy." I'll just let him explain it in his own words: "The cultural/educational struggle going on between liberals and conservatives ... will decide whether the liberals are allowed to take this nation further and further down the road to socialist destruction or whether the conservatives will take our country back for God and the people. As a 2008 election Republican Presidential candidate, I hope all you Libertarians become Christians. Your support for the pro-choice position vis-a-vis abortion is just as destructive as the Communazis' position on that subject. The Democrats are complete Socialists, that is, Communazis." He also wants tougher enforcement of narcotics laws, a total ban on tobacco sales, opposes any gay rights laws, supports a total ban on abortion, etc. In a major setback for his campaign, Archangel was arrested on attempted murder and other felony charges in March 2006. "As a matter of fact, he is crazy. Anyone in their right mind can see that," said the Sheriff who arrested Archangel. You can find lots and lots of very long pages of writing like this -- all of which proclaim this candidate to be God -- on his official website: ArchangelMichael.info (you've got to scroll down very far on the homepage to find the link to his Presidential campaign and his autobiography).

SoFlaJDM · 08-09-2006, 10:10 AM

ballz2wallz · 08-09-2006, 10:10 AM

what the...

motivez · 08-09-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

it's also the same thing democrats were saying last presidential election

Circumstances are different now. The war is more broadly unpopular, Bush has lost the support of the majority of Americans, the Republicans have suffered a host of corruption scandals, etc...

ballz2wallz · 08-09-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Circumstances are different now. The war is more broadly unpopular, Bush has lost the support of the majority of Americans, the Republicans have suffered a host of corruption scandals, etc...

iraq is closer to a democratic government that ever in its history

we're are closer to alternative fuels

the economy is the best it's been in a long time

NK and Iran are under international pressure

the middle east in currently in the process of getting rid of major terrorist groups

yeah, a lot is different than last election...i agree with that.

motivez · 08-09-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

iraq is closer to civil war than ever since the invasion

we're are closer to record high gas prices and the middle class is feeling it

the economy is the best it's been in a long time for the richest people in america

NK and Iran are under international pressure becase the US appears too impotent to be able to do anything

the middle east in currently in the process of increasing support massively for groups like Hezbollah

yeah, a lot is different than last election...i agree with that.

SoFlaJDM · 08-09-2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

lew · 08-09-2006, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

And yet the Democrats are wanting to raise taxes on gas.

motivez · 08-09-2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by lew

And yet the Democrats are wanting to raise taxes on gas.

What?

Do you mean gas companies?

lew · 08-09-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

What?

Do you mean gas companies?

Right, because that won't filter down into what we pay.

lew · 08-09-2006, 10:29 AM

This is who I would support for a Democrat President:

STATUS: ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE. Randy Crow -- a small businessman and former realtor -- was an unsuccessful candidate for the Wilmington City Council in 1997. Then he ran for Congress in the 1998 primary (spending $200 and losing by a lopsided vote of 94% to 6%) ... then he ran for President in the 2000 primaries (he got on the ballot in New Hampshire and Louisiana) ... then he ran another losing primary for Congress later in 2000 (losing by a 93% to 7% vote) .. then he lost for Council again ... then he finished last place (9th - 1%) in the 2002 US Senate primary ... and then he ran for President again in 2004. Crow was on the 2004 primary ballot in New Hampshire (15th place - 60 votes) and Texas (10th place - 0.8% - 6,319 votes). He withdrew from the Presidential race in March 2004 -- ran another race for County Commissioner -- then announced he will run for President again in 2008. In an email to Politics1 in 2000, Crow explained his motives: "I am involved in politics to get rid of filthy communists and lots of others." He also believes the FBI blew up TWA Flight 800 with a laser and was likely involved in crashing Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan's 2000 campaign plane. On his website, Crow repeatedly expresses open hatred towards Jews (Example: "Vietnam was a zioni$t manipulated War designed to kill our Christian kids and install na$i communi$t zioni$m in the Vietnam region"). Most of the contents of Crow's site, however, appear to be rambling conspiracy tirades against various envisioned enemies: "It has been 13 years since the FBI fessed up to the fact they were investigating me. All my files are classified ... In 1994 the Federal Force manipulated a bunch of mess which questioned my sanity ... I think the Force had some weird blood work done on me or possibly put a computer chip in me." Crow was upset that we quoted these various passages from his '04 site so he suvbsequently printed a rather long, rambling screed on the site denouncing Politics1 as a "zioni$t" tool out to destroy him (he even attacked us for referring to him above as -- gasp -- a "former realtor" because, he notes, he only dabbled in real estate in the past). Oh, we forget to mention that Crow had a "hunch" that he "may be The Returning Christ ... I do believe firmly that in a way whether or not I am The Returning Christ is a non event and do not worry about it at all, except I do pray that if I am The Returning Christ I would like to be the coolest, greatest, most fantastic Returning Christ in the history of the Universes." By 2005, he pretty much answered his own question by releasing an Easter Message from the Returning Christ. Yup, you can read that and lots, LOTS more writings like this on his official campaign website: Randy Crow - Democrat for President.

ballz2wallz · 08-09-2006, 10:31 AM

what the...

Scrum · 08-09-2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

and moves to the left, it will ensure a republican victory in 2008

Not agreeing with the ongoing management of the war = left?

okies

kinggovernor · 08-09-2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

That's the same thing people were saying they wished would happen in '92 before the Republicans took over.. they were all about trying to be 'moderate' and 'middle of the road', and worried that the 'fringe of the party' was going to ruin their chances in the election

Look how that turned out. This is going to energize the Democratic base come election time, and they're going to turn out in droves.. and Republicans aren't going to have a big way to motivate their people.. doesn't look like the same old "oh my god! 2 boys kissing!" is really having that much of an impact this time.

They got Bill Clinton elected for 8 years. Far left and Far right will not get you elected.

motivez · 08-09-2006, 10:34 AM

Yeah, but look at what happened to Congress. I thought we were talking about the midterms here..