Student Suspended For Religious Beliefs - Page 3

Scrum · 03-30-2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

it's not a religion. it's not protected, hence no violation of any rights here.

It's not?

What specifically makes it not a religion?

SoFlaJDM · 03-30-2007, 01:23 PM

christianity is just as legit as this guy's religion

motivez · 03-30-2007, 01:24 PM

What's interesting is that people (in general) seem to take a side against this kid based on their feelings about it not being a valid religion.

It's a fine line really, because what constitutes something going "too far" in the name of religion? Being disruptive? You could make all kinds of claims about a Jewish person wearing one of their little caps, or a Muslim person wearing their garbs, etc.. being distracting to the general public who are Christian or whatever.. so where's the line?

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

is there some kind of a religion list they must be registered to be a "legit" religion?

so now we're back to the pot... growing pot (violating the law) is the same as wearing a pirate suit

way to go guys

the pot case was another attempt at using the religion loophole to do something disruptive/illegal and get away with it.

it's called a "point".

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

It's not?

What specifically makes it not a religion?

the fact the guy who created it SAID SO.

motivez · 03-30-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

the pot case was another attempt at using the religion loophole to do something disruptive/illegal and get away with it.

it's called a "point".

Uh, since when is holding up a banner saying "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" illegal?

It's about freedom of expression and limits on it.

When leeway is given to one religion, that same leeway must be given to all to be consistent, otherwise it's religious discrimination

Scrum · 03-30-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

the fact the guy who created it SAID SO.

Originally Posted by Scrum

Where in the constitution does it say only religions who have faithful creators will be protected?

7960 · 03-30-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

it's the first amendment

Ahh, I went and looked it up. Neat!!

Now, I see a bunch of stuff in there about religion but I have yet to see one discussed in this thread (except for the yarmulke and "turban" snippets).

Wait!! I have an idea!!!

Originally Posted by Scrum

Diving a minibike is not listed in the constitution, freedom to observe your religion is.

SWEET!!

My religion, The Church of the Minibike Alter, requires my son to ride his minibike to class and use it as his seat. Keeping him from doing that is preventing him from observing his religion.

Go! Refute my logic.

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Uh, since when is holding up a banner saying "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" illegal?

It's about freedom of expression and limits on it.

When leeway is given to one religion, that same leeway must be given to all to be consistent, otherwise it's religious discrimination

the bong hits for jesus thing is different. that's not religious based at all, he was on a "school field trip" so to speak and he was encouraging illegal activity during school time. no way do I see that as justified.

SoFlaJDM · 03-30-2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Ahh, I went and looked it up. Neat!!

Now, I see a bunch of stuff in there about religion but I have yet to see one discussed in this thread (except for the yarmulke and "turban" snippets).

Wait!! I have an idea!!!
SWEET!!

My religion, The Church of the Minibike Alter, requires my son to ride his minibike to class and use it as his seat. Keeping him from doing that is preventing him from observing his religion.

Go! Refute my logic.

see the pot case... it's illegal to begin with (and potentially dangerous)... wearing a pirate suit is not

Scrum · 03-30-2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

SWEET!!

My religion, The Church of the Minibike Alter, requires my son to ride his minibike to class and use it as his seat. Keeping him from doing that is preventing him from observing his religion.

Go! Refute my logic.

Then have him do it. When the school smacks it down, I will be behind you guys all the way.

7960 · 03-30-2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

shouldn't this thread be in the religion section btw?

No. This thread has very little to do with religion. It mostly has to do with an asshole kid and people struggling to defend his assholio actions

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Ahh, I went and looked it up. Neat!!

Now, I see a bunch of stuff in there about religion but I have yet to see one discussed in this thread (except for the yarmulke and "turban" snippets).

Wait!! I have an idea!!!
SWEET!!

My religion, The Church of the Minibike Alter, requires my son to ride his minibike to class and use it as his seat. Keeping him from doing that is preventing him from observing his religion.

Go! Refute my logic.

exactly. people are taking this shit too far. there should be a line somewhere. and unfortunately when you create "lines" such as this, someone usually gets the short end of the stick, but this has gotten out of control.

SoFlaJDM · 03-30-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

No. This thread has very little to do with religion. It mostly has to do with an asshole kid and people struggling to defend his assholio actions

i have the constitution on my side... you have... opinion

Scrum · 03-30-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

No. This thread has very little to do with religion. It mostly has to do with an asshole kid and people struggling to defend his assholio actions

So now the kid is an asshole for observing a religion?

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

see the pot case... it's illegal to begin with (and potentially dangerous)... wearing a pirate suit is not

but if it's part of his "religion", it should be protected, should it not? by the logic of some of the other commenters on this thread?

Scrum · 03-30-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

exactly. people are taking this shit too far. there should be a line somewhere. and unfortunately when you create "lines" such as this, someone usually gets the short end of the stick, but this has gotten out of control.

I'm fine with drawing a liine. Let's do it now.

No public displays of religion anywhere.

There we go. I know i'm happy. Is everyone else?

SoFlaJDM · 03-30-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

but if it's part of his "religion", it should be protected, should it not? by the logic of some of the other commenters on this thread?

the logic of your own post you mean?

the guy grew pot(ILLEGAL), said it was part of his religion... BUT IT'S ILLEGAL

the kid wore a PIRATE SUIT

Linzyhop · 03-30-2007, 01:33 PM

you have to take into account the kids intentions. when did he start wearing his pirate costume? does he wear it all the time, or only at school? does he practice everything else involving this religion or only during school hours.

if he's only doing this at school, he's obviously trying to cause a stir.

SoFlaJDM · 03-30-2007, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I'm fine with drawing a liine. Let's do it now.

No public displays of religion anywhere.

There we go. I know i'm happy. Is everyone else?

sign me up!