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Old 04-04-2007, 05:19 PM   #21
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Or damned FOX conservative bias.

Remember only conservatives are prejudiced while liberals are not.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:22 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
Or damned FOX conservative bias.

Remember only conservatives are prejudiced while liberals are not.
I think Fox needs to really be put into perspective. The ADA scores of the mainstream media is about 10-15 points to the left of center. Clearly liberal. That's what we're all used to. We're not used to even hearing the conservative opinion let alone a station that gives it priority. A 10-15 point shift to the left is still fairly centrist by most accounts. But imagine another 20 points to the left... Hello Air America and Maxine Waters!!! What a huge jump, eh? Now what if you go 20 points in the other direction.. Hello Fox News. While equally biased (if not less), in relation to what we consider the "norm" it's extremely far out of the park of what our society has come to expect from our media. So it's chastised. But for the conservative Americans their news reports are no different than a liberal watching ABC. And that's something many liberals can't or just simply won't accept.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:59 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I think Fox needs to really be put into perspective. The ADA scores of the mainstream media is about 10-15 points to the left of center. Clearly liberal. That's what we're all used to. We're not used to even hearing the conservative opinion let alone a station that gives it priority. A 10-15 point shift to the left is still fairly centrist by most accounts. But imagine another 20 points to the left... Hello Air America and Maxine Waters!!! What a huge jump, eh? Now what if you go 20 points in the other direction.. Hello Fox News. While equally biased (if not less), in relation to what we consider the "norm" it's extremely far out of the park of what our society has come to expect from our media. So it's chastised. But for the conservative Americans their news reports are no different than a liberal watching ABC. And that's something many liberals can't or just simply won't accept.

Well said and that is exactly what this study shows but it shows it with pretty good data to back it up.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:30 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Any study that says Brit Hume's conservative tirade of a show is less bias and closer to the average voter than NBC's Tom Brokaw is flawed somewhere

No bias present in that analysis.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:29 PM   #25
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They've made whole documentaries and can continue to make more documentaries (except people that watch them already accept it as fact) on the blatant bias of Fox as merely servicing to its 90% GOP audience

You could never make a library of documentaries on CNN's bias or Tom Brokaw's bias...because CNN's flagship places like the Situation Room...even their Sunday Talk like Late Edition...they play it as objective as possible, and Brokaw is probably the most respected journalist that still is involved with a network

All I see two guys who looked around and found a way to label the media liberal, in the PR I don't even see a solidly conservative source mentioned, most likely because their methods involve only blatantly conservative magazines like the weekly standard (that actually advertise on how conservative they are)

Two guys by the way, one is a political scientist, and the other isn't even a full professor...

So they publish it in the same ECONOMICS (laugh) journal that accepts anything controversial, such as (as ive seen) flawed data showing abortion was the cause for our drop in crime

Since this has even less to do with economics than that did, you have to figure it got rejected from any prestigious social science journal

its junk
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:40 PM   #26
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So fucking what? Why does it bother you so much that FOX gives conservatives more of a voice than your beloved liberal mainstream would? That's the only way it can be fair because your liberal news media won't let them have a voice. Oh wait, I forgot, all news media must be liberal and all conservatives must be seen and not heard.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:05 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
So fucking what? Why does it bother you so much that FOX gives conservatives more of a voice than your beloved liberal mainstream would? That's the only way it can be fair because your liberal news media won't let them have a voice. Oh wait, I forgot, all news media must be liberal and all conservatives must be seen and not heard.


Average media is not very biased.

Foxnews is extremely biased.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:17 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post


Average media is not very biased.

Foxnews is extremely biased.
Right and I thought the exact opposite till I read this study. They're all biased the question is to what degree. Most of the mainstream media as evidenced by this study leans left by a fair margin.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:29 PM   #29
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Evidence of a liberal bias has been presented over and over on this forum and people ask for empirical data. Empirical data is provided and now we resort to rhetoric.

Is Fox News biased?? Yes.. nobody is arguing against that from what I can see. We need to move one step further here now that the conservatives admit Fox is biased, we need others to admit the media they so love and adore is also very likely to be biased as well. It's amazing how protective people are of the sources they develop their opinions from. People have gotten so accustomed to thinking a certain way they refuse to challenge their world.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:42 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
They've made whole documentaries and can continue to make more documentaries (except people that watch them already accept it as fact) on the blatant bias of Fox as merely servicing to its 90% GOP audience
I hope your not talking about the "OutFoxed" hatchet job or the typical attack O'Reilly stuff? Do you ever even watch Fox News? Have you ever watched Brit Hume or John Gibson? Or do you get everything off Youtube and trash sites like "Crooks and Liars" and "Daily Kos" that feed certain people exactly what they want to hear?
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:46 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
Or damned FOX conservative bias.

Remember only conservatives are prejudiced while liberals are not.

What?

Are you trying to deny their super human intellectual powers?
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:42 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
What?

Are you trying to deny their super human intellectual powers?
Just remember three tiny little words:

LIBERALS ARE SUPERIOR!
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:02 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post


Average media is not very biased.

Foxnews is extremely biased.
proof to back these statements up?
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:26 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by phreak View Post
proof to back these statements up?
Turn on a television, listen to a radio and open a newspaper.
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:42 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Scrum


Average media is not very biased.

Foxnews is extremely biased.
I would have to say that Fox is biased to the right and average media is biased to the left. it's hard to find impartial mainstream media.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:00 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Turn on a television, listen to a radio and open a newspaper.
Considering I watch/read/listen to all three I'd say they're pretty biased. I think it depends totally on your perspective which is what makes this study so interesting.
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:50 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
Considering I watch/read/listen to all three I'd say they're pretty biased. I think it depends totally on your perspective which is what makes this study so interesting.
Ok I can look at the front pages of all major news papers today, and look at the programs for all the "liberal" networks

Please, show me the bias for today, april 5th

If you can or can't, I can show you the bias today for Fox's programs for today
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:12 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
Considering I watch/read/listen to all three I'd say they're pretty biased. I think it depends totally on your perspective which is what makes this study so interesting.
I kind of agree. It depends on your perspective.

But this massive "liberal media" thing is a myth brought to you by the people who skew things every day at foxnews.
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:14 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
I kind of agree. It depends on your perspective.

But this massive "liberal media" thing is a myth brought to you by the people who skew things every day at foxnews.
Multiple universities and independent studies that show there is a liberal media is brought to us by Fox now?
 
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:21 AM   #40
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