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Old 04-04-2007, 10:37 AM   #1
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I think this was the intention all along, to show the world they "can be diplomatic" with the rest of the world
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:44 AM   #2
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No better way to show diplomacy than kidnapping/arresting some people under false pretenses and letting them go free a month later.

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Old 04-04-2007, 10:53 AM   #4
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so wait a moment... diplomacy... works?!?!?
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Ardentfrost View Post
No better way to show diplomacy than kidnapping/arresting some people under false pretenses and letting them go free a month later.

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proof it was false pretenses?
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:55 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
so wait a moment... diplomacy... works?!?!?


I'll tell you what worked. The fact that we gave them a 2 day deadline before we take action. How does that work? We told Saddam we'd take action if he didn't comply, and we did. Iran knows this. MILITARY ACTION works, not diplomacy.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:31 AM   #7
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I think they had two intentions from the beginning.

1) To drive up oil prices to help prop up their fledgeling economy.
2) To show the world they should be taken seriously from a negotiations standpoint.
 
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
I think they had two intentions from the beginning.

1) To drive up oil prices to help prop up their fledgeling economy.
They succeeded
2) To show the world they should be taken seriously from a negotiations standpoint.
They failed.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:45 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
so wait a moment... diplomacy... works?!?!?
If you consider telling Iran you're going to invade if they don't release their hostages, then yes I guess diplomacy worked.
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
They succeeded
They failed.
I think driving up prices was their primary objective.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:56 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
so wait a moment... diplomacy... works?!?!?
what part of their illegal kidnapping was diplomatic?

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
proof it was false pretenses?
The part where the iranian guys reported their position and knew they were in iraqi waters, but then changed their reported position to be in iranian waters.

They knew exactly what they were doing or they wouldn't have lied about it.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:57 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
what part of their illegal kidnapping was diplomatic?
what part of it was illegal, or a kidnapping?

i'd like to see proof, not a hunch for a change
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:58 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
what part of their illegal kidnapping was diplomatic?

The part where the iranian guys reported their position and knew they were in iraqi waters, but then changed their reported position to be in iranian waters.

They knew exactly what they were doing or they wouldn't have lied about it.
oh so you don't have proof... thanks man
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:01 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
what part of it was illegal, or a kidnapping?

i'd like to see proof, not a hunch for a change
You dont have proof that it wasn't illegal. No one really knows where in the gulf these men were when they were captured.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:03 PM   #15
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If the red coats knew they were in Iraqi waters, they should have attacked/sank the Iranian ship that captured them. They would know the position for sure because the ship would have been at the bottom of the gulf where this took place.
 
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
i'd like to see proof, not a hunch for a change
If you expect proof, you have to give it yourself
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:07 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
If you expect proof, you have to give it yourself
i'm not the one spewing garbage
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:07 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
You dont have proof that it wasn't illegal. No one really knows where in the gulf these men were when they were captured.
So then it makes it pretty likely they were in Iranian waters.


We have ships all over the gulf. You mean to tell me they were able to capture the soldiers and there was nobody around to help them in international waters?


But of course this is Iran and they are always wrong about everything since they are evil. We should hurry up and invade before more of their citizens start embracing our culture. We wouldn't want anyone in the ME liking us. Makes it much more difficult to pat ourselves on that back after dropping tons of ordinance on their heads.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:10 PM   #19
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you guys need to take a look at a map... iraq would be landlocked if it weren't for about 20 miles of beach
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:11 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
i'm not the one spewing garbage
WRONG!!!

See your post here:

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
so wait a moment... diplomacy... works?!?!?
Pure garbage!!!!
 
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