Edwards break through: New Rasmussen numbers shows he beats any GOP by at least 6 pts

[Thorgrim]

Edwards (49%) Giuliani (43%)
Edwards (47%) McCain (38%)
Edwards (55%) Romney (29%)
Edwards (50%) Thompson (36%)
Edwards (50%) Huckabee (41%)

Rasmussen Premium section has the rest, but the link has the big news, him beating Rudy and trouncing rising star Thompson

Edwards vs. Thompson, Giuliani

This is pretty big, I think a lot of Democrats uneasy about Obama and Hillary are going to take a second look at Edwards, and when the money comes in...we now see the American people can pick him even people like Thompson, Rudy...are at the TOP of their image game

[goldenponderbob]

When more comes out - and it will - he'll drop back into the pack.

Beating a republican in 08'? Wow, Some challenge!

Here's a better egg hunt, find an elephant who can lick the best
the donkeys can put up. Now that would be something to write
home about.

[7960]

Edwards should have planned his wife's cancer relapse better...closer to the election would have worked in his favor. As it is he's ahead now because of sympathy, NOT because he miraculously became a better politician in the last few weeks.

He should fire his campaign manager for allowing her recurrence at a bad time and use his ambulance-chaser lawyer buddies to get the doc to retract the report until nearer to election time.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by 7960

Edwards should have planned his wife's cancer relapse better...closer to the election would have worked in his favor. As it is he's ahead now because of sympathy, NOT because he miraculously became a better politician in the last few weeks.

He should fire his campaign manager for allowing her recurrence at a bad time and use his ambulance-chaser lawyer buddies to get the doc to retract the report until nearer to election time.

What a fucking asshole thing to say.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Scrum

What a fucking asshole thing to say.

It fits for the asshole that he is and the asshole idea that his rise in popularity in the polls has to do with anything other than his wife's cancer.

I hope she's ok, but I also hope he stops using her cancer as a political tool.

[SoFlaJDM]

[DosEquis]

I can't say that i would support edwards. Unfortunately the guy I like only raised like 4 or 6 million when Obama and Clinton raised 25. The other guy i like probably isnt going to run. If i was forced to choose between obama and clinton at this point i'd say obama.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by 7960

It fits for the asshole that he is and the asshole idea that his rise in popularity in the polls has to do with anything other than his wife's cancer.

I hope she's ok, but I also hope he stops using her cancer as a political tool.

So he's a dick for what the public perceives?

Where has he used her cancer as a political tool? They were very frank about the situation and I don't see how anyone can say he's using it for political gain.


Step away from the keyboard for a few hours.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Scrum

So he's a dick for what the public perceives?

Where has he used her cancer as a political tool? They were very frank about the situation and I don't see how anyone can say he's using it for political gain.

I watched and read the interviews. It's the impression I got from listening to him (and her) speak. Before those interviews I hadn't really thought much about him so I didn't have any preconceived ideas...I came away thinking "If my wife had cancer the last thing I'd do is put her through this." IMO his quest for presidency is as important to him as his wife is. That makes him 100% asshole.

Step away from the keyboard for a few hours.

[DosEquis]

She said she/they were going to continue. He is not forcing the issue as she chose to keep going. Actually, I am sure it was a mutual decision between them as they are married. If he did want to use it as a political tool he would have probably done as 7960 suggests and released it later when it "mattered" or had the best chance for a last minute impact.

I don't believe his support comes from people feeling sorry for him. While there might be a few out there that are sympathy supporters, I dont think they would amount to 1-2% of them.

It was good for some national (and free) TV time, which is so incredibly important when running for any kind of office.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by 7960

Before those interviews I hadn't really thought much about him so I didn't have any preconceived ideas...

Originally Posted by 7960

and use his ambulance-chaser lawyer buddies to get the doc to retract the report until nearer to election time.

Yea, you have a very open mind when it comes to Edwards.

Seriously, did you even listen to a word they said?

[Stylerod]

Edwards was a one term Senator in NC and was on his way to losing his seat because he sucked. Anyone that thinks he deserves to be president is a moron.

Also, these stats are useless. How many days before the elections take place? 500+?

[grembert]

In a general election Edwards might have a better chance to win than would Obama or Clinton. Edwards could likely win many or all of the southern states, which could be a key battleground area.

I wouldn't have a clue how well Obama would do in the South in the general election. Tennessee almost voted for an African American senator in November, but he was fairly conservative.

With Bush's unpopularity and eight Republican years the Democrats are in a good position to retake the White House. But it's far from a done deal.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Scrum

Yea, you have a very open mind when it comes to Edwards.

Seriously, did you even listen to a word they said?

Yes, I did listen to them. I'm telling you the impression I left with. I've formed most of my opinion of Edwards since the interviews, reading the paper and internet to get background on some of the candidates i was unfamiliar with. From what I've read Edwards is inconsequential..........and an ambulance chaser.

Originally Posted by grembert

In a general election Edwards might have a better chance to win than would Obama or Clinton. Edwards could likely win many or all of the southern states, which could be a key battleground area.

He can't win. He can use his status in the southern states as a bargaining tool for another candidate but he can't win on his own. IMO he'll hang on for a while but eventually throw his support/votes behind another candidate.

[grembert]

Originally Posted by 7960

He can't win. He can use his status in the southern states as a bargaining tool for another candidate but he can't win on his own. IMO he'll hang on for a while but eventually throw his support/votes behind another candidate.

You might be right. But he did surprise some people with his campaign in 2004, including his debate with Chaney

He doesn't have much experience, but who does?

[DosEquis]

I think a lack of washington experience is something we kind of need. Those long term politicians have been bought and paid for by the system. We need a real "straight talk express" that will make popular and unpopular decisions to put our country before party. Raising taxes, cutting spending on things like pork out of welfare and pork out of the military. Each thing pisses off certain sections of society but we need to fix this place before it is to late.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I think a lack of washington experience is something we kind of need. Those long term politicians have been bought and paid for by the system. We need a real "straight talk express" that will make popular and unpopular decisions to put our country before party. Raising taxes, cutting spending on things like pork out of welfare and pork out of the military. Each thing pisses off certain sections of society but we need to fix this place before it is to late.

I agree, but does it have to be a person that made his fortune by ambulance chasing?

And again, he was a shitty senator, why do people think he would be a good president???

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I agree, but does it have to be a person that made his fortune by ambulance chasing?

And again, he was a shitty senator, why do people think he would be a good president???

Oh, dont get me wrong. I dont think i would be able to support him for president either. I am kind of shocked he was able to get elected in a red state considering how liberal he is. Of the three current "front runners" if i absolutely had to pick one, i'd choose Obama. Joe Biden and Wes Clark are still my favorites though. Biden didn't raise much money and Clark hasn't even declared running.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Oh, dont get me wrong. I dont think i would be able to support him for president either. I am kind of shocked he was able to get elected in a red state considering how liberal he is. Of the three current "front runners" if i absolutely had to pick one, i'd choose Obama. Joe Biden and Wes Clark are still my favorites though. Biden didn't raise much money and Clark hasn't even declared running.

Biden has some shady history, some racially insensitive comments he made that won't fly, and he's so senatorial it hurts to listen to a full lecture sometimes, and he can't raise any money...freakin Dodd outraised him...Dodd!

Richardson is a better version of him in pretty much every aspect

Clark can't run now, Edwards/Obama/Hillary/Richardson have sucked up all the air

Obama over Edwards? Obama doesn't even have a real healthcare plan yet, Edwards has had his basic plan for awhile, not to mention he leads the pack in many progressive things, like the first to pull out fox debates, first to recant his vote on Iraq, etc

I dread the day when a journalist, probably unfairly, asks Obama about how he used cocaine as a teenager...prime time, presidential debate...

I do not need another swift-boat collapse in my life

Edwards has been through the run, as VP cand. we already know all the shit that's going to be thrown at him...weak stuff...and he's acting more energetic and tough this whole season...he's ready for the big race