Originally Posted by ballz2wallz All he's said (in said video) is that IF they continue to be the rogue nation going against the wishes of the rest of the world, we need to take action. But seriously, who's not saying that? That's exactly what we need to do, and I ...
04-19-2007, 11:57 AM
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| ..... your a worthless poster  Realist 
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz The closest he's come is when he said in answer to a question is "So I think the president's comment that we won't take anything off the table was entirely appropriate" and "The president must keep open a military option." 
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04-19-2007, 12:07 PM
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| Governments should fear their people  Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
Iran has every right to acquire nuclear weapons. So, if they do that, then yes, he wants to bomb them. I never stated he wants to bomb them unconditionally. Fuck you guys are reading way too much into what I said.  | ||||
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04-19-2007, 12:09 PM
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| no es mi culpa  Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by 7960 yup.
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04-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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| ..... your a worthless poster Realist
| Originally Posted by lew You said that video said he wants to bomb them.
We're not reading anything into what you said, that's what you said. Vote for him or not, we don't care, but if your reason is because you think he wants to bomb iran and that video is your evidence then please rip up your voter registration card now. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 12:25 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by 7960
Linking that video was a "joke" - you know, like what McCain said. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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| For those about to rock...  libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Joking about setting up us the bomb on a nation that has not attacked us... is not funny. Not only that, but it shows that he SUPPORTS going to war to stop a nation from doing something HE (and the administration) thinks it shouldn't be doing. We are no one to say what they can and cannot do. If they attack us, it's one thing. But they haven't. It's not even about us, it's about Isreal, as he clarifies right after the linked video ends. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 12:50 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost
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04-19-2007, 01:28 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost Erm, the world has said they shouldn't be doing that. This isn't about 'HE and the administration', it's about the entire world. They don't have to attack anybody in order for military operations to be done. Would you rather wait until a nuke goes off? Despite what you think will or will not happen, I'd rather not hedge my best on what you think. The world doesn't want them to continue with their nuclear work, and something needs to be done fi they don't follow suit.
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04-19-2007, 01:31 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| This is a problem with the age of the instant video clip and cameras everywhere. Any light hearted remark by a candidate, no matter what the forum, is now a national news story. Has anybody even read or heard what McCain has said about actual policy in the last week or so? But McCain and the rest should no better by now. Trying to make a cool comment directed at the question, not his answer, and he just gave John Stewart and Colbert a great new clip for tonights show! 
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04-19-2007, 01:39 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Despite what the song from the 80's said, we are not the world.
If the entire world doesn't want iran to get nukes, then let the entire world stop them. It is not the United States of America's place to act on behalf of the entire world. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 01:41 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON I haven't heard what he said about the policies on war in the past week, but I remember what he said a year and a half ago, and I heard what he said when he changed his tune about a year ago. Has he changed what his views on war (the current one and future ones) again?
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04-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| It's this type of rhetoric that lessens our chances of actually accomplishing any diplomacy with Iran, and it's a shame that it's coming from someone who is running for an office which will have the capacity to carry out what he said, joke or not. Starting a war with another country isn't a laughing matter, and treating it so lightly is highly callous to those who have already died fighting in an ill conceived war going on right next door. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 03:12 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost No, we aren't the entire world, but we are the strength behind any world resolution. When the world want ssomething done, they turn to us, that' sjust part of being on top.
So no, we are not the world, but we are their backbone. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 03:23 PM
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| I wonder Independent San Antonio, Texas
| He seemed to me to just be singing or repeating the guys question. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I'd love it if the dang americocentric attitudes died. Like the world can't function without us.
They functioned without us getting involved with everything 100 years ago. I'm sure someone will bring up the world wars | ||||
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04-19-2007, 05:03 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| This is ridiculous. It's the media and people who spread this like it's an actual issue that gives Iran the propaganda it needs to hate America. Every time an American publicly states McCain or another senator wants to bomb Iran over something so frivolous as this just gives them more ammo. | ||||
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04-19-2007, 05:23 PM
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| I wonder Independent San Antonio, Texas
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost If the world was a sweet place we would not need Nationism. There aren't any teddy bears out there. There are all thinking of what is best for them so we have to do what is best for us and I think we are the best hope for the world.
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04-19-2007, 05:40 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by Rouger2 What's best for us is protecting ourselves, not setting up shop in foreign lands, assassinating foreign leaders, and undermining countries we deem "evil." All that actually does the OPPOSITE of protecting us... it makes them angry and we're seen as the bad guys. It doesn't matter how good the intentions are ("We were just trying to give them freedom, why wouldn't they want that?"), we meddle, they don't like it, then we get attacked or they burn effigies and we wonder why.
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04-19-2007, 05:42 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost Sorry dude, it's a reality whether you like it or not. You'll have to accept it
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04-19-2007, 05:47 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz No no, the pushing our nationalism on the world thing is not felt by everyone. There are plenty of people out there (in the US) who realize it's fallacy and only creates worse situations... people even in Washington. Hell, McCain himself was saying it over a year ago before he turned into a pod person.
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