FDA Failure

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

No.

Except according to their site, they DO monitor pet foods and medicine.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Except according to their site, they DO monitor pet foods and medicine.

How closely? They test each can? I don't think so, and nor should they.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

How closely? They test each can? I don't think so, and nor should they.

So, you're ok with them supplying test for animal foods and medicines, but you don't care how thorough they are?

I mean... this is EXACTLY why I made this thread at all. That attitude is unacceptable. If they said "we will not offer ANYTHING for X" then it would be supplied for by other means...

And if they are offering piss-poor testing for food/medicine for animals, then how do we know they are doing the best that we need for our foods and medicines? I'm sure you'll say "there's a difference between animals and humans" but it's the SAME GROUP doing the testing. If they are doing just enough to get by, then we are all potentially fucked.

And as I said before, without them we'd be put in a position where our demand would give us the best quality for our money. Currently it's just a $10 billion a year service that we pay for, but have no control over.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

And as I said before, without them we'd be put in a position where our demand would give us the best quality for our money. Currently it's just a $10 billion a year service that we pay for, but have no control over.

I agree with that. Most services by the government should be privatized.

Thanks to Daphnesmom on another site:

Petconnection is liveblogging the FDA Conference right now about our food safety - it's got some unreal examples of how dangerous our own human supply really is. Of course the pet food is part of it too....

Follow it here

http://tinyurl.com/2hyvg9

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by 03 white zx3

Thanks to Daphnesmom on another site:

Wow... they're calling for MORE money and authority going to the FDA. Apparently $10 billion a year isn't enough?

Jeez...

[nbiggershaft]

Originally Posted by thomez

a void that would come about by the non-existence of the FDA cannot already exist if the FDA currently exists

Why? if the FDA currently doesn't work, there should already be as much private oversight as there would be without the FDA.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

Why? if the FDA currently doesn't work, there should already be as much private oversight as there would be without the FDA.

You need to read some F.A. Hayek or Milton Friedman or take a macro-econ class or something... where the government moves in forcefully, the private sector moves out voluntarily. It's the nature of economics. You're being forced to pay for the service the government provides, which means there is very little money to be made privately unless the government MAJORLY drops the ball... government programs will always do just good enough to continue to get tax money, so it's not like you'll see FEMA just say "naw, we're not going to help hurricane victims," they'll do it just good enough to say they did all they could with the money they were given.

There is a SLIGHT avenue of exception... in that you can have an extra certifiable aspect of an industry, but at that point you're fulfilling a demand of people who are elite about that item. If the FDA didn't exist, there would be MANY private certifying organizations and virtually everything would have SOME sort of certification on it... and they would advertise how they check for this and that and you should look for their seal of approval for whatever reason. That is a check system based on demand because those companies would get money for what they do, and the better job they can do, the more money they get.

Seriously. SIMPLE economics.

[thomez]

Originally Posted by nbiggershaft

Why? if the FDA currently doesn't work, there should already be as much private oversight as there would be without the FDA.

not if people are misled to believe the FDA does an adequate job, plus what you read above

nobody wants to pay for the same service twice

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