Washington Whispers: GOP voters: like a rock

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 11:04 AM

Washington Whispers: GOP voters: like a rock

Many Democrats may hate the war in Iraq and itch to dump the president, but a new GOP survey shows that Republican base voters stand ready to jam the November polls to return their team to Congress. A three-page-survey memo obtained by Washington Whispers reveals that despite reports of some dissatisfaction with the economy, the war, and President Bush, 81 percent of Republican voters are "almost certain" to vote and an additional 14 percent say they are "very likely." It goes without saying that they'll vote Republican: By a margin of 84 percent to 6 percent, they will pull the GOP toggle switch in the voting booth. And here is something you don't hear very often: 88 percent of Republicans approve of how the prez is handling his job. What's it all mean? Analysts say that GOP voters are ready to dig in and play defense against the charges Democrats are tossing at Republican candidates.

The memo also helps to define what issues work for Republican candidates. The survey--officially tilted "Base Mobilization Survey Finds and Conclusions"--divided the issues into foreign and domestic. On the foreign side, it's all terrorism and war with polling that finds GOP voters back the war, worry about Democratic attacks on the fight against terrorism, and think the Patriot Act, moves to tighten the border, and even telephone surveillance are good things. And their favorite domestic issues aren't a surprise: They are pro-tax cuts, big on cultural values, and worried that Democrats want to put too much bureaucracy in healthcare. Another nonshocker: They don't like the media's war stories, thinking that they are too negative. Some 60 percent of the GOP base expresses "extremely high dissatisfaction" with the coverage of the war.

hsmith · 08-11-2006, 11:05 AM

Too bad republicans aren't big on slashing the size of government and debt.

A worthless party.

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Too bad republicans aren't big on slashing the size of government and debt.

A worthless party.

it is too bad. but i'd rather have them than the dems. even more of a worthless party.

Thorgrim · 08-11-2006, 11:11 AM

their domestic issues are going to sink so bad...the tax cuts are already in no one cares anymore that was how many years ago, the cultural issues already failed in congress, and people want more healthcare help and the public is willing to risk "big government"

the only worry is that the GOP will scare everyone by throwing up enough WTC pictures like in 2004

Stylerod · 08-11-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

it is too bad. but i'd rather have them than the dems. even more of a worthless party.

Agreed. God I want term limits. I hate seeing the same fuckers (from both parties) doing the same shit year after year after year.

hsmith · 08-11-2006, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

it is too bad. but i'd rather have them than the dems. even more of a worthless party.

It is like deciding which pile of pig shit smells better.

No thanks.

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by hsmith

It is like deciding which pile of pig shit smells better.

No thanks.

when your only option is to shovel pig shit, i'd rather pick the one that smells better

Concept · 08-11-2006, 11:32 AM

Interesting:

How would voters look at a liberal Republican like Rudi Guiliani?

JaJae · 08-11-2006, 12:53 PM

Giuliani is my hero.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-11-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Giuliani is my hero.

Why? IMO, he was just in the right place at the right time. People associate him with strength during 9/11, but I don't know how justified that is.

JaJae · 08-11-2006, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Why? IMO, he was just in the right place at the right time. People associate him with strength during 9/11, but I don't know how justified that is.

I'm not talking just about his actions from 9/11. His job performance and what he did to NYC speaks wonders.

Concept · 08-11-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm not talking just about his actions from 9/11. His job performance and what he did to NYC speaks wonders.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-11-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm not talking just about his actions from 9/11. His job performance and what he did to NYC speaks wonders.

But the only reason most people outside NYC hold him in high regard is because of 9/11. Otherwise he wouldn't be a national figure.

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 01:28 PM

as far as guiliani is concerned, i'm not sure he's conservative enough for many republicans out there, but he certainly is a viable candidate. he will have support of both democrats and republicans. whether he was there 'at the right place at the right time' in NYC during 9/11 is a perfect example of what we would want a president to do in a disaster. he is a leader and showed us so during 9/11.

Scrum · 08-11-2006, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

he is a leader and showed us so during 9/11.

By doing what exactly? Not hiding under his desk and crying?

What did he do that was so wonderful?

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

By doing what exactly? Not hiding under his desk and crying?

What did he do that was so wonderful?

Role during 9/11 attack
The defining episode in Giuliani's career was his management of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center. He coordinated the response of various city departments while organizing the support of state and federal authorities for the World Trade Center site, for city-wide anti-terrorist measures, and for restoration of destroyed infrastructure. He made frequent appearances on radio and television to communicate critical information to the public authoritatively: for example, to indicate that tunnels would be closed as a precautionary measure, and that there was no reason to believe that the dispersion of chemical or biological weaponry into the air were a factor in the attack. He balanced the need to make hundreds of decisions directly and immediately, to delegate hundreds of others, and to visit the injured and console the families of the dead.

When Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal suggested that the attacks were an indication that the United States "should re-examine its policies in the Middle East and adopt a more balanced stand toward the Palestinian cause," Giuliani met the assertion with defiance, declaring,

There is no moral equivalent for this [terrorist] act. There is no justification for it... And one of the reasons I think this happened is because people were engaged in moral equivalency in not understanding the difference between liberal democracies like the United States, like Israel, and terrorist states and those who condone terrorism. So I think not only are those statements wrong, they're part of the problem.[12]
With that, New York City rejected the prince's $10 million donation to disaster relief in the aftermath of the attack.

In the wake of the attacks, Giuliani was widely hailed for his decisive and undaunted leadership during the crisis. For this, he was named TIME magazine's Person of the Year for 2001, and given an honorary knighthood by Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom on February 13, 2002.[13]

Rudy Giuliani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scrum · 08-11-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Rudy Giuliani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Glad to see that your copy/paste function works, but what do you think he did that was so great?

ballz2wallz · 08-11-2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Glad to see that your copy/paste function works, but what do you think he did that was so great?

he did his job well. his job consisted of leading his people during the time of a disaster. what does 'leading his people' mean? whatever governor's of cities do. there was a huge difference from post 9/11 NYC and post katrina new orleans, don't ya think? the specifics i don't know, cause i've never been governor of NYC.

he's obviously well-respected because of what happened by more than just me. obviously he did his job well. i certainly think he has potential to do the same for a country in the time of the disaster.

would i vote for him? i don't know...

motivez · 08-11-2006, 02:39 PM

I remember reading something saying Guiliani had a lot of negatives, and once he's taken off the 9/11 pedestal there are some things that could easily prevent him from being elected.

I don't remember what they were exactly, but I'll see if I can find the article.

JaJae · 08-11-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I remember reading something saying Guiliani had a lot of negatives, and once he's taken off the 9/11 pedestal there are some things that could easily prevent him from being elected.

I don't remember what they were exactly, but I'll see if I can find the article.

He's known to use police to be a bit abusive to get what he wants done. He also has a habit of getting around laws he doesn't approve of.