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Old 04-24-2007, 04:14 PM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
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Myspace bulletin about racism

I'm sure some of you have gotten this before, but I was wondering what you think of it? I think it's fairly relevant with all of the racial tension lately. I also think that for the most part it's true.

I'm sure I'll regret posting this, but I'm posting it anyways!

You call me racist...Body:You call me "redneck" ,"hillbilly", "slaker" , "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo" and you think it's OK.

...But If I were to call you coon,jiggaboo, Kike, sand nigger, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, Camel Jockey, Gook, nigger, slant eyes or Chink you call me a racist.

-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

-You have the United Negro College Fund.

-You have Martin Luther King Day.

-You have Black History Month.

-You have Cesar Chavez Day.

-You have Yom Hashoah

-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi

-You have the NAACP.

-You have BET.


-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.

-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.

-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.

-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.

-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.

-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.

-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

-You have "black is beautiful" shirts and ppl think its cute but if I wore a "white is wonderful" shirt id get beat up.



I am white.

I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.



Why is it that only whites can be racists?


Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this

So what? no one will re post this for fear of being called racist



if you think its true re-post it saying "You call me racist
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:16 PM   #2
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but but but black people can't be racist.


and Feb. is the shortest month of the year.


and the other 11 months are white history months.


and and and

 
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:23 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by 03 white zx3 View Post
I'm sure I'll regret posting this, but I'm posting it anyways!
Why? It is true.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:34 PM   #4
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Why? It is true.
Of course it is true. But how many people really want to hear the truth?

I was talking more about trying to make a serious discussion about something that is as "silly" as a myspace bulletin.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:46 PM   #5
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Definitely true, one only need look as far as the College Republicans who offered a $100 scholarship to a straight, white male and the outrage over that.. they've been asked to apologize by various groups around the University and haven't.. so far I applaud them.

I find it ridiculous that there are so many programs that put White (especially white males with average household incomes) at a disadvantage based solely on race..

Whether it's more qualified college applicants being rejected for less qualified students based on the color of their skin, or companies being essentially required to meet racial quotas for their employees, and thus being forced to higher potentially less qualified people.. it's bullshit.

I don't care if someone thinks I'm racist because of it. I think the people and organizations that play on race (Jackson, Sharpton, NAACP, etc) are the real racists.. because they think skin color should trump other factors.. while people like me (and you and others in this thread) are not.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:46 PM   #6
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I took a psyc of the black experience class. In that class the professor perverted the definition of racism essentially forcing it to be between a powerful group oppressing the subordinate group. Meaning only white males could be racist and nothing done to them could be considered racist.

I questioned her definition saying every definition I could find didn't say that. She told me those definitions were written by white people and I had to read her book (she wrote a book for the course) as well as the other texts so I could understand what racism truly was.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:01 PM   #7
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... or companies being essentially required to meet racial quotas for their employees, and thus being forced to higher potentially less qualified people..
My dad ran a company that bid on air force defense contracts. In order to bid on a certain contracts he had to show some percentage of his employees were in certain groups.

He actively recruited a friend of my sister's because she was a woman, she was black, and she was in the service (did her 4 and out). She counted toward 3 of his quota numbers. When he talked to my sister one of his *last* questions was what her degree was....that was way down on the list of important things. He already had the engineers to do the work, he just needed the people to fill the buckets. He used to joke that it would have been a jackpot is she'd been handicapped.

Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I took a psyc of the black experience class. In that class the professor perverted the definition of racism essentially forcing it to be between a powerful group oppressing the subordinate group. Meaning only white males could be racist and nothing done to them could be considered racist.
I've read this before. The longer I thought about it the more I realized the definition actually has some merit.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:22 PM   #8
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Everything that has been posted here is true. Blacks are usually quicker to yell " racism "; they are often given better opportunities than others; and you have those Jaskson's and Sharton's playing the race card.

But growing up in the South in the 1960's, it is still so clear in my memory how much struggle, etc. Blacks had to go through to get the most basic rights ( the right to vote, the right to walk into a drug store to buy a candy bar, etc. ). The nation as a whole considered them second class citizens.

The 1960's might seem like ancient history to many, but we can at least tolerate the fact that many Blacks are sensitive , maybe oversensitive to hundreds of years of racial prejudice.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:09 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by grembert View Post
maybe oversensitive to hundreds of years of racial prejudice.
This country is barely hundreds of yrs old. We certainly didn't have slaves as soon as we stepped foot in Plymouth, MA, and it was abolished in the mid 1800s
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:00 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
This country is barely hundreds of yrs old. We certainly didn't have slaves as soon as we stepped foot in Plymouth, MA, and it was abolished in the mid 1800s
Do you really think the only prejudism in this country was by the whites against the blacks?
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:20 PM   #11
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Good post. I think many people are beginning to see this double standard.

it is interesting and not to derail your thread but in my MBA class two weeks ago and last week we were talking the IMUS situation and the black male in the class chimed in and said there is a horrible double standard in our society and the black woman in the class agreed. I do not find this surprising but you'd never see Jesse Jackson or Sharpton defending the rights of a white person which is IMO sad.

People know there is a double standard, black, white, asian, hispanic it is becoming more prevelant in our society and I believe that it will eventually go away.
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
This country is barely hundreds of yrs old. We certainly didn't have slaves as soon as we stepped foot in Plymouth, MA, and it was abolished in the mid 1800s
Slaves were first brought to the Virginia colony in 1619.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:27 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by grembert View Post
Slaves were first brought to the Virginia colony in 1619.
Not as slaves though
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:28 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by 03 white zx3 View Post
Do you really think the only prejudism in this country was by the whites against the blacks?
Isn't prejudism by whites against blacks the topic of conversation in this thread?
 
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I had a summer job when I was a teenager. Each day I would walk through some terrible Black slums to get back and forth from work. Those kinds of memories have really shaped by thinking today.

There were quite a few murders of Blacks and Civil Rights workers commited
in the South in the 1960's. A number of people, including many White's, want to bring the murderers of those crimes to justice today ( in some cases, local people bragged about committing murders in the 1960's. Some are still alive). To many, such action would be to correct a past wrong.

On the other hand, the pendulum to correct wrongs may have swung back too far. Affirmative action may have been overused. And as one Black teacher at Vanderbilt said, the media needs to stop " propping up " Jackson and Sharpton.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:47 PM   #16
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Are there any African-American members of the board that would like to share their opinions on this subject? I think those particular opinions would be highly informative.
 
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:51 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Isn't prejudism by whites against blacks the topic of conversation in this thread?

That was not my intent, no. Plus there are MANY references to other races besides African Americans in it. Here's an example.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
Reading back through though, I see that you cut off the part of the quote referring to the specific race. Now that I saw that, your post makes a little more sense to me.

edit: I find it "funny" that anything race related always seems to become a black and white issue though.

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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Not as slaves though
Here is quote from a " The History of the Old South "

" The Negro servants that were introduced into Virginia in 1619 by a Dutch ship were sold to the planters technically as long-term indentured servants. Slavery was afterward gradually established by custom and in 1660 by law in Virginia. "

You can draw your own conclsions.
 
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:13 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Not as slaves though
indentured servants were basically the same thing back then.
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the cited letter is 2-faced IMO

it does not make it clear if the writer believes that BET etc are racist or not.

Is the complaint that white ppl cant be openly racist & get away with it whilst non-whites can, ..., or is the complaint that BET etc are racist?

The exaggerated use of the word 'you' is the clue.

This is not to say that some ligitimate concerns arent raised here, ..., but the letters tone is racist IMO & I'm more than happy to indulged some ppls expectations by saying this.

The writer does not in any way seek any kind of raprochment with the 'you', ..., OTOH it can be argued that they style apes that of the 'overly-shrill denouncers of those no-good racist sh*ts over there' & as such escapes criticism for its situationalist stance. But its caled trolling isnt it?
 
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