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Old 08-12-2006, 01:52 PM   #1
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More Faux Media *lots of pics, 56k warning*

Here we have an Associated Press photo of a man picking out toys and collecting them into a tub.

Yahoo! News Photo
Caption:
A Lebanese man tries to salvage toys from the rubble of a destroyed building in the suburbs of Beirut, Lebanon, Saturday, Aug. 5, 2006, after Israeli warplanes repeatedly bombed the area overnight. Loud explosions resounded in Beirut as Israeli warplanes renewed their strikes in the city's southern suburbs. Lebanon's state-run National News Agency said four people were killed in the bombing. (AP Photo/Marwan Tahtah)
Here we have a man with a suitcase full of toys arriving on a fresh scene with a suitcase of toys.

Photo courtesy of AP.

Same man, same briefcase of toys, only now he has taken the doll apart..

This photo is courtesy of Reuters (Two camera crews on the scene)
Caption:
A Lebanese man holds toys from his destroyed apartment in southern Beirut, a Hizbollah stronghold that was targeted by the Israeli air strikes, July 27, 2006. REUTERS/Mohamed Azakir
Photo of the planted toy courtesy of Reuters

Caption:
A building is destroyed in a Hizbollah stronghold targeted by Israeli air strikes in southern Beirut July 28, 2006. REUTERS/Sharif Karim (LEBANON)
More planted toys:


Reuters / Sharif Karim


Reuters / Sharif Karim
Yahoo! News Photo
Caption:
A toy lies among the wreckage of a demolished building in the Hizbollah stronghold that was targeted by Israeli air strikes in southern Beirut July 26, 2006. REUTERS/Sharif Karim(LEBANON)



Reuters / Sharif Karim



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Truck hit by an Israeli war plane:

Notice the neat cut out roof and no fire damage to the grass or lack of skid marks.
Caption:
Two Lebanese army soldiers inspect a damaged vehicle that was struck by Israeli ware plane missiles at the village of Kfar Zabad in the eastern Bekaa Valley, Lebanon Sunday, Aug. 6, 2006. Israel and Hezbollah sharply intensified fighting Saturday with airstrikes, rocket attacks and brutal ground fighting, an apparent bid to inflict maximum mutual damage even as the United States and France agreed on a draft U.N. resolution calling for a halt to the violence. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)
For the record, this is what a car looks like after it's been hit by a missile.


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In the printed media:

US News


Same man in a kneeled defensive stance


Zoomed in on what's burning...

After zooming in, notice it's a garbage dump and they're burning tires! You mean to tell me this man didn't notice or smell the tires and the camera man couldn't see it with his lens or from clear site. It's a fraud.

Not to be outdone. Time magazine also got in on this photo shoot.
Here is the same man again at the same scene posing for a Time magazine photo shoot.


And their faux caption:

The lack of plane in this picture is scary.


I have been looking all over the net for media fraud regarding the Israel / Lebanon situation. To date I have not found any fraud in favor of Israel.

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Old 08-12-2006, 01:58 PM   #2
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zomg there is propaganda during a war!

I don't like the fact that it's staged, but it's not like there aren't children who are dying and having their lives destroyed.

Israel doesn't need to do much of this in a visual sense because they have powerful lobbies that can control and influence how the entire debate and discussion is framed around the world through almost every news outlet.

They don't have the same ability, so they do what they can.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 01:58 PM   #3
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The guys don't look the same to me...
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:02 PM   #4
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I'm not complaining about the people in the photos. I'm complaining about our media purposely lying to us to suit their liberal agenda.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:06 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by motivez
zomg there is propaganda during a war!
our media shouldn't be feeding us propaganda during someone else's war
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:07 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
The guys don't look the same to me...
put your glasses on
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:07 PM   #7
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You see a liberal media bias by a few miscaptioned photos out of tens of thousands of photos taken

I see a pro-IDF bias as shown by new commentary by Brit Hume and other "news programs" for weeks on end to millions of viewers
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:09 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
put your glasses on
I'm 20/20
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:09 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
You see a liberal media bias by a few miscaptioned photos out of tens of thousands of photos taken
i don't know where this misconception of 'miscaptioned photos' came from, but clearly we're not criticizing the captions, but the photos alone.
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
I'm 20/20
then you should have no problem seeing it's the same guy

take your blinders off maybe?
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:10 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
You see a liberal media bias by a few miscaptioned photos out of tens of thousands of photos taken

I see a pro-IDF bias as shown by new commentary by Brit Hume and other "news programs" for weeks on end to millions of viewers
Is Brit Hume lying to you or telling you a one sided story? There's a difference.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:12 PM   #12
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lol

Please. If there's any bias in the majority of reporting, it's pro-Israel. Look at the number of Israeli media lobbies in the US that have a huge say in how the news is reported.

I posted a video awhile back that people decided not to watch, but it illustrates clearly the impact that these lobbies have on the coverage we recieve.

If you think this is a broad conspiracy by news agencies to mislead the public I'm afraid you're simply grasping for straws. There's always going to be inaccuracies in reporting during war.. people just don't generally care enough as long as it paints us or whoever we're friendly with in a good light.

I'm not going to apologize for them because I think staging is bad, but I certainly understand that they don't have a nearly as effective method of getting out their propaganda and distortions as Israel does.. most of Israel's is so effectively integrated into the news we get that we don't recognize it as propaganda.

They do what they have to do to get their message out. The fact that these are stage doesn't lessen the real impact that the ~million Lebanese people are feeling as a result of the destruction of their country by Israel..and if it does, there are serious problems with your preconcieved notion about the value of someones life who happens to not be Israeli, American, or one of our stronger allies..
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:13 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by JaJae
Is Brit Hume lying to you or telling you a one sided story? There's a difference.
Well I don't have specific examples off the top of my head from Lebanon, but when he said California was safer than Iraq, I thought it was a lie using misleading data
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae
Is Brit Hume lying to you or telling you a one sided story? There's a difference.
When basic facts are distorted, left out, etc.. it becomes a lie. There's refusal by news corporations to even use certain words to describe situations because of Israeli media lobbies concerned about how Israel looks to the American public.

It's just so effective that you don't even bother to question it... and neither do most Americans. There's a huge difference in what we see and what the international community sees too, and I'm not talking about soemthing like Al Jazeera, I'm talking about things like British news that show a vastly different picture because they aren't nearly as controlled by lobbies as the US media is.

Also, it's not JUST Israeli lobbies, there's plenty of other lobbies that have far too much of an impact on the impartiality of our news organizations that negatively impacts all of our coverage, not just this specific conflict.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:19 PM   #15
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And the NY Times was also making exaggerated claims about it's dangerousness. That's not the issue I'm trying to point out here.

It's the blatant taking a picture and purposely lying about it it's contents.

Brit Hume can say California is safer and back it up with some stupid statistic that makes no sense.

But to take pictures of guys placing toys and then film those toys as something they're not..
Or to film tires burning and make up a caption for it.

Or to film a guy laying down and saying he was dead.

Etc etc..
After a while you have to begin to say hey, this isn't bias anymore. It's just outright lying.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:21 PM   #16
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I don't see any direct evidence for anything you've said in the last post
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:22 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
I don't see any direct evidence for anything you've said in the last post
I apologize, here lemme help you out.

Evidence
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:36 PM   #18
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Ok:

The guys and toys are not similiar

Missiles don't always hit direct on

The cover of the magazine is about the dangers of Hezbollah not about the dangers of Israeli airstrikes on innocent civilians


I believe that pretty much covers all your "evidence"
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:43 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
Well I don't have specific examples off the top of my head from Lebanon, but when he said California was safer than Iraq, I thought it was a lie using misleading data
no, brit hume was reporting on data suggesting iraq was safer. he wasn't saying it himself.
 
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Old 08-12-2006, 04:09 PM   #20
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Wow. Those pictures are a shining example of why you have to take anything the media says OR SHOWS with a big ole fucking grain of salt. This goes both ways.

The media should be ashamed of itself.
 
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