Even dailykos likes Ron Paul - Page 2

lew · 05-09-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I think Ron Paul has a great shot at winning over some progressives.

Stylerod · 05-09-2007, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

That's BS.

There are plenty of issues they agree on.

And probably a shitload more that they don't!

RMNIXON · 05-09-2007, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

People have different beliefs about the role of government, I don't think it makes them stupid..

No, but it just imposes their belief on the rest of us and we all pay for it!

Kytro · 05-09-2007, 08:27 PM

Much of the 'net community like supporting Ron Paul because the mainstream media tried to ignore / censor him

motivez · 05-09-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

No, but it just imposes their belief on the rest of us and we all pay for it!

So if the tables were turned it would be better? Or?

The people vote for the ideas they want to see implemented in our society, no one agrees with everything. I don't think having different ideas about what the proper role is makes anyone stupid though.. which was the main point.

RMNIXON · 05-09-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

So if the tables were turned it would be better? Or?

The people vote for the ideas they want to see implemented in our society, no one agrees with everything. I don't think having different ideas about what the proper role is makes anyone stupid though.. which was the main point.

Well I don't think voting yourself others peoples money, or other peoples property, or shuting them up when you don't like their opinions is stupid. But I will be damned if I will sit quietly while they try to do it.

We do have a Constitution to protect individuals from certain types of popular ideas and that goes for both parties!

Donkey® · 05-10-2007, 05:52 PM

Big stretch. Who cares what bloggers think? Who cares what Kos (even though I haven't heard anything from him directly) thinks...it's not like he said "OMG I WILL VOTE FOR HIM!!!!" The fanboys are trying way too hard.

DosEquis · 05-11-2007, 04:00 PM

Dr. Paul is probably my favorite conservative, though I have 2 democrats i'd pick over him. If neither democrat gets nominated and Paul does, I'll vote for Paul in 08.

Thorgrim · 05-12-2007, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Kos doesn't like him, one blogger out of thousands on the site supports Ron Paul. Kos couldn't support a Republican, his site would take a huge hit and Democrats would no longer look to him. He makes his livelihood off his liberal status.

He makes his livelihood off his liberal status of electing Democrats...you phrase it as if it's some sort of quasi-insult

He believes the Democratic Party is the only thing that can stop back the Republican onslaught, the ends justify the means

thatguyoverthere · 05-12-2007, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

I think Ron Paul has a great shot at winning over some progressives.

Against the drug war? Check.

Against the Iraq war? Check.

Against the Patriot Act? Check.

Not under the thumb of the religious right? Check.

What's there not for a progressive to like? I'd vote for him. Seems he's got his shit together, IMHO.

Thorgrim · 05-12-2007, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Publius

reading some of the responses (especially the "Small government can kill. Just ask those in new Orleans." one) makes me wince at how stupid these people are.

I believe it, go ahead, tell me i'm so stupid it makes you wince

Similiar comments were levied against those who brought up the Germ Theory, so go ahead and smear

Thorgrim · 05-12-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Publius

my point is that we already have huge government bureaucracy as is, and it was that bureaucracy that delayed the aid to New Orleans... A smaller government would've probably gotten it there faster, whether you believe that is the role of government or not.

I think that's a ridiculous statement, FEMA under Clinton responded to huge disasters in record times and with huge satisfaction, and the national guard saved many lives

Your whole opinion in fact, makes me wince, with what, I can't say

Thorgrim · 05-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Dr. Paul is probably my favorite conservative, though I have 2 democrats i'd pick over him. If neither democrat gets nominated and Paul does, I'll vote for Paul in 08.

Yes, and when he appoints Scalia-judges and the courts allow all sorts of atrocities to occur, then you'll be sorry

Ardentfrost · 05-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I believe it, go ahead, tell me i'm so stupid it makes you wince

Similiar comments were levied against those who brought up the Germ Theory, so go ahead and smear

You think small gov't was the problem in the Katrina fiasco?

Thorgrim · 05-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

You think small gov't was the problem in the Katrina fiasco?

The government was weakened by Iraq and other things so that in domestic disaster relief to natural disaters...it was smaller, and that caused deaths

The big three disasters, that Bush saw: 9/11, the "big one" in LA, and NO hurricane

If he had put in a bigger government presence, it wouldn't have been such a clusterfuck...again, FEMA under Clinton proved that FEMA can work!

Donkey® · 05-12-2007, 09:48 PM

You guys do realize with no real party to back his agenda in Congress...he'd be pretty much be worthless as president...in spite of all these "great ideas" he is claimed to possess?

Ardentfrost · 05-12-2007, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You guys do realize with no real party to back his agenda in Congress...he'd be pretty much be worthless as president...in spite of all these "great ideas" he is claimed to possess?

He'd at LEAST prevent congress from passing bullshit legislation.

JaJae · 05-12-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

He'd at LEAST prevent congress from passing bullshit legislation.

Not only that, but the President plays a major role in determining the political climate of the nation. It also gives him prime real estate to sell his libertarian ideals and if America likes them (or conservatives) the politicians will be forced to support them.

And if nothing else he will act as a wall to prevent the country from going down the slippery slope both parties have been harping down. That alone would be a wonderful feat and wouldn't make him a lame duck.

lew · 05-12-2007, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You guys do realize with no real party to back his agenda in Congress...he'd be pretty much be worthless as president...in spite of all these "great ideas" he is claimed to possess?

You do realize that Paul's various ideas have much support from both Democrats and Republicans, depending on the issue?

You do realize this, right?

JaJae · 05-12-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by lew

You do realize that Paul's various ideas have much support from both Democrats and Republicans, depending on the issue?

You do realize this, right?

More importantly many of his ideas will likely catch on with the American public.