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Old 05-10-2007, 11:49 PM   #21
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Interestingly enough, I first stumbled upon the idea of the singularity by finding the website of some quasi cult. They wanted to buy an island and live on it and wait for the singularity to come.
What did they think was going to happen if they did that...strange
 
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:57 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
I said too far. One can speculate about technologies to a point. I'm really talking about the next 50 years (other than ultra-fast to instant travel).

I am a futurist, and subscribe to the idea of a technological singularity
I subscribe to the idea that I'll hit Powerball. That doesn't make it realistic.
 
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:04 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
What did they think was going to happen if they did that...strange
Take a look for yourself!

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Old 05-11-2007, 12:14 AM   #24
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I see what they want to do there.
 
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:05 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
I also subscribe to the singularity idea, although I have no idea when it will happen. But I do think the advent of the internet took us a big step forward. Information now flows immeasurably more freely than before, and flow of information is a necessary element for it.

Interestingly enough, I first stumbled upon the idea of the singularity by finding the website of some quasi cult. They wanted to buy an island and live on it and wait for the singularity to come.
most people only use the internet for communication within their own country, so while it was a big step, it maybe wasn't as big of a step as played out to be

read that article I posted if you can figure out how to get the whole thing
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:16 PM   #26
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:44 PM   #27
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I subscribe to the idea that I'll hit Powerball. That doesn't make it realistic.
Perhaps not, but with powerball you know there terrible odds. The idea of a singularity has reasonable evidence to support the possiblity.

If the change in pace of technology continues as it is eventually we will outstrip our current ability to predict what will happen.
 
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:01 PM   #28
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Perhaps not, but with powerball you know there terrible odds. The idea of a singularity has reasonable evidence to support the possiblity.

If the change in pace of technology continues as it is eventually we will outstrip our current ability to predict what will happen.
but you're still making predictions..... how ironic
 
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:19 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
but you're still making predictions..... how ironic
I making predictions, sure - based on what may occur with currrent information increase rates - but only within the limited scope that is possible before it gets to hard.

Predictions are not facts, they are extrapolations. Would think it possible to predict what a being would do if they were significantly more intelligent and had near-perfect memory?

Still, I understand why people dismiss the idea of a singularity. For some it just makes them uncomfortable, they don't like the idea of not being human, and others simply dismisss the idea because it seems to far out of the relam of possibility.

Then again maybe I just accept it to hold on to my sanitiy.
 
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