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Old 05-11-2007, 05:01 PM   #1
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- XM Satellite Radio shock jocks Opie and Anthony apologized Friday for airing a homeless man's crude comments that he'd like to have sex with Condoleezza Rice, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth.

The remarks were made on their show Wednesday by a guest the duo call Homeless Charlie. As the name of each woman came up, the guest said he would like to have sex with her -- using language not fit for print.

Opie and Anthony laughed as they imagined Rice's "horror" while describing a violent sexual encounter in which Rice is punched in the face.

Washington-based XM condemned the remarks.

"We deplore the comments made on Wednesday's 'Opie & Anthony Show,' " XM spokesman Nathaniel Brown told The Associated Press on Friday. He would not say whether XM planned to take disciplinary action.

Opie and Anthony, whose full names are Anthony Cumia and Greg "Opie" Hughes, apologized to listeners on Friday's show.

"We apologize to the public officials for comments that we made on our XM show on May 9th. We take very seriously the responsibility that comes with our creative freedom and regret any offense that this segment has caused," they said.

Because the show airs on satellite radio, there are no federal restrictions on its content. According to XM's Web site, the radio service has parental controls that allow users to block access to channels that frequently contain explicit language. Those channels are designated with an "XL" notation.

The same radio duo was dumped by CBS Radio in August 2002 for running a contest in which they said two listeners had sex in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral. They were hired by XM in 2004.

The remarks could become an issue as XM seeks approval from the Federal Communications Commission to merge with New York-based Sirius Satellite Radio, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade magazine Inside Radio.

"XM and Sirius don't want any regulation," he said in Friday's New York Daily News. "But it's come up in four congressional hearings -- and at this point, the merger is such a close call, any issue could become important."
I don't listen to these guys but come on. First, what's the purpose of being on satellite radio if you have to limit what you say? Second, I don't see what they said as being all that bad or different from any other jokes I hear on regular tv and radio. When are we going to get off this "apologizing" bandwagon?
 
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:23 PM   #2
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Now here is another post where I am forced by simple honesty to agree with.......gah.......Donkey!


I saw this story today, and I know it is an insult, but what did I think?


Not a soul but Opie and Anthony Fans would ever hear these stupid remarks if we did not have a major news crisis over this! They are a private broadcast and they are well known as lude and crude! How much tact do have when you claim to be insulted but spread to everybody the very remarks that caused offense? Perhaps a law against blatant media hype over content needs to make its way through the Congress?
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I don't listen to these guys but come on. First, what's the purpose of being on satellite radio if you have to limit what you say? Second, I don't see what they said as being all that bad or different from any other jokes I hear on regular tv and radio. When are we going to get off this "apologizing" bandwagon?
They work for a corporation. I doubt the corporation wants to be known for the station that likes talking about raping the Sec of State.
 
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Shock jocks apologize for crude comments - CNN.com

I don't listen to these guys but come on. First, what's the purpose of being on satellite radio if you have to limit what you say? Second, I don't see what they said as being all that bad or different from any other jokes I hear on regular tv and radio. When are we going to get off this "apologizing" bandwagon?
they didn't have to apologize
 
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:48 PM   #5
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They apologized because they wanted to which was probably because it was in their best interest to. I didn't hear much of an outcry demanding an apology. People on the radio apologize all the time for offending people. Some because they mean it others because it's good for their job.

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Old 05-11-2007, 05:59 PM   #6
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They apologized because they wanted to which was probably because it was in their best interest to. I didn't hear much of an outcry demanding an apology. People on the radio apologize all the time for offending people.


But why is this a story at all? No doubt you have heard a remark which you did not spread because you knew it would cause further insult. I think the media is going all PC crazy over this type of thing because it is getting ratings to spread this stuff like High School girl gossip. That is starting to bother me more than two radio clowns. What good is a forced apology anyway if you don't really care who you offend?
 
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
But why is this a story at all? No doubt you have heard a remark which you did not spread because you knew it would cause further insult. I think the media is going all PC crazy over this type of thing because it is getting ratings to spread this stuff like High School girl gossip.
there are people who listen to XM who got really pissed........ so undoubtedly they made calls and complained and threatened to boycott sponsors. Or at least it's happened before and XM is trying to head it off at the pass.
 
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I thought one of the points of satellite radio was that you didn't have to watch our mouth?

Much like HBO, you are paying to listen to it. There either aren't any or aren't many sponsors to try and scare away.
 
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I thought one of the points of satellite radio was that you didn't have to watch our mouth?
the point is the OWNER has more leeway in what he ALLOWS to be said, not that the DJ has blanket free reign to say whatever he wants.

Much like HBO, you are paying to listen to it. There either aren't any or aren't many sponsors to try and scare away.
and you think talking about raping high-ranking political women is going to bring in subscribers??

if the OWNER thinks this shit will cost him more money than it will bring in he has every right to tell the DJ to apologize. Of course the DJ has every right to refuse. Of course the owner has every right to fire him for it.
 
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I am also sick of the apologizing. I would guess that 3/4ths of the time it is simply out of formality than sincerity. If they don't mean it what is the point really.
 
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there are people who listen to XM who got really pissed........ so undoubtedly they made calls and complained and threatened to boycott sponsors. Or at least it's happened before and XM is trying to head it off at the pass.

I can go along with that. But don't tell me the mainstream media gave a damn about XM before this became another outrage story. That is what I am talking about.

They should be concerned about their paying audiance, but not about the media PC enforcers who just hype for attention.
 
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
I can go along with that. But don't tell me the mainstream media gave a damn about XM before this became another outrage story. That is what I am talking about.

They should be concerned about their paying audiance, but not about the media PC enforcers who just hype for attention.
But this wouldn't be a story if their paying audience didn't speak up.
 
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
I am also sick of the apologizing. I would guess that 3/4ths of the time it is simply out of formality than sincerity. If they don't mean it what is the point really.

You don't think it is sincere do you?

It's not like some sort of media Spanish Inquisition!


 
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talking about raping high-ranking political women is going to bring in subscribers??
Of course it will. The people who subscribe to satellite radio for OandA and Stern do it because they want to hear outrageous things which would never fly on terrestrial radio. There is a certain demented humor to these things that either you appreciate or you don't. Lots of people DO appreciate it.

What's really ridiculous about this whole thing is that probably none, or almost none, of the actual O and A listeners were offended. All of this hype is from people who don't pay to listen to them anyway. Of course I'm just speculating, but I can't imagine that O and A fans would be offended by this any more than normal.
 
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I thought one of the points of satellite radio was that you didn't have to watch our mouth?

Much like HBO, you are paying to listen to it. There either aren't any or aren't many sponsors to try and scare away.
Well I think you're right on both of those points but XM still has the ability to cancel contracts.





I think that talking about raping the first lady and the sec of state is absurd and worth firing someone over. However, that doesn't mean they violated the law or the constitution. If I fired them it would be a business decision because they are driving away dollars.

I think you might be able to put this in the category of inciting hate or action but quite frankly I'm not ready to go there yet. These are shock jocks and while i find it sick and disturbing they shouldn't lose their job simply because someone disagreed with them IMO.
 
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Well I think you're right on both of those points but XM still has the ability to cancel contracts.
Oh, I totally agree.

The owner can do whatever they want. I'm just getting sick of the PC silliness when it comes to situations like this as far as the public goes.
 
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FOXNews.com - CBS Cans Shock Jocks Over Asian Slurs - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment


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NEW YORK — One month after CBS Radio fired radio host Don Imus, it has permanently pulled the plug on a pair of suspended New York shock jocks for a prank phone call rife with offensive Asian stereotypes.

"The Dog House with JV and Elvis," hosted by Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay, "will no longer be broadcast," CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo said Saturday.

The cancellation of the show on WFNY-FM, nearly three weeks after the hosts were suspended, was another indication of the increased scrutiny on radio hosts and the heightened management sensitivity to complaints in the wake of the Imus firing.

CBS Radio dismissed Imus in April for his racist and sexist remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Vandergrift and Lay broadcast a call to a Chinese restaurant in which the caller, in an exaggerated accent, placed an order for "shrimp flied lice," claimed he was a student of kung fu, and compared menu items to employees' body parts.

The initial airing of the call went unnoticed, but a rebroadcast after Imus's firing prompted an outcry from Asian-American groups. Vandergrift and Lay were initially suspended without pay, but Asian-Americans quickly demanded the same penalty applied to the much higher-profile Imus.

"This is a victory not only for the Asian-American community, but for all communities who find themselves constant targets of racist and sexist programming," said Jeanette Wang, an executive with the Organization of Chinese Americans.

Mateo would not comment on the status of the DJs' contracts or whether they were still on the CBS payroll.

Imus plans a $120 million breach of contract suit against CBS Radio.
 
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Of course it will. The people who subscribe to satellite radio for OandA and Stern do it because they want to hear outrageous things which would never fly on terrestrial radio. There is a certain demented humor to these things that either you appreciate or you don't. Lots of people DO appreciate it.
I'm sure the sat.radio marketing crew did their math and figured they'd lose more subscribers than they'd gain. Or maybe a higher-up at the station was offended. Either way the station has every right to tell them to apologize.

What's really ridiculous about this whole thing is that probably none, or almost none, of the actual O and A listeners were offended. All of this hype is from people who don't pay to listen to them anyway. Of course I'm just speculating, but I can't imagine that O and A fans would be offended by this any more than normal.
OandA fans were outraged when they said the mayor died. OandA fans were outraged when they had a contest that resulted in a couple having sex in a church. Just because OandA fans now pay to hear them doesn't mean people aren't going to get offended when they say it would be funny if some women got raped.
 
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