60 Minutes Tonight on CBS at 7pm EST: President of Iran and Stephen Colbert - Page 2

6SpeedTA95 · 08-13-2006, 02:05 PM

FYI I think Cspan is playing the entire interview tomorrow night

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-13-2006, 02:06 PM

calling dpakman...can you host the video or something?

Stylerod · 08-13-2006, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

This should be very interesting. I bet he'll come off as a very reasonable, intelligent person, not necessarily because he's exceptionally reasonable or intelligent, but just because he's been painted as batshit insane by the administration since he came to power. That's a pretty low bar to jump over.

Sure, if he has half a brain he knows exactly what the western viewers want to hear and he will say it. And, of course, people will believe whatever he says because they figure "If Bush hates him, he must not be that bad."

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-13-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

And, of course, people will believe whatever he says because they figure "If Bush hates him, he must not be that bad."

I dont' think that's true, but if it is, it's a shame our president has so little credibility that this is the case.

Stylerod · 08-13-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

I dont' think that's true, but if it is, it's a shame our president has so little credibility that this is the case.

It's absolutely true. And it's a shame some people are so shallow they let their emotions do their thinking for them.

Thorgrim · 08-13-2006, 03:19 PM

I don't think he's anymore crazy than Pat Robertson, the presidents spiritual advisor...the fact that he can call up and guide our president should scare you a lot more than the president of Iran who is nothing without the ayatollahs

Bush Predicted No Iraq Casualties, Robertson Says (washingtonpost.com)

ballz2wallz · 08-13-2006, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Yes, we need to view him from a more independent standpoint instead of simply taking the Administration on its word.

like he said, the media has done a good job at showing us who he is, not the administration

ballz2wallz · 08-13-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

I'm unimpressed at how naive you seem to be. At a time Saddam was our friend, we installed him there in the middle-east. Motherfucking Donald Rumsefeld himself sat on Saddam's couch in one of his palaces, as they joked with one other! Then shortly after -- we sold him truckloads of bombs and weapons, he must have made some good impression eh?

It's the same with all of our other so-called "evil enemies", we twist their words to support our media sensationalism of any subject such as this. The middle-eastern anti-semetism "extremist" arguement has never been that the holocaust "never happened". It is a much more peaceful truth -- it's the arguement that the middle-eastern region was not involved at all in WW2, so why do they have to "suffer" and have the Jewish peoples take over their land.

So in that effect, they say; "The holocaust never had anything to do with us" ... "Why are we the ones to have our land taken away and not Europe or America?"

the enemy of our enemy is our friend.

different time, different place.

ballz2wallz · 08-13-2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I don't think he's anymore crazy than Pat Robertson, the presidents spiritual advisor...

wait, you claim that robertson tells bush what to do, but you post a link where bush doesn't do what robertson told him to do

6SpeedTA95 · 08-13-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

wait, you claim that robertson tells bush what to do, but you post a link where bush doesn't do what robertson told him to do

Thats what I was just thinking...

Bush is allowed to talk to robertson, he obviously doesn't subscribe to everything the guy says. I think many agree Robertson is an extremist, I think the guys a nutjob personally. Perhaps somewhere amongst his crap he says some good things, I dunno, but I fail to see how Robertson is running the whitehouse.

DosEquis · 08-13-2006, 03:56 PM

I dont know, but i prefer logic and reasoning when making leadership decisions for our country. This whole "faith based" decision making scares me sometimes.

6SpeedTA95 · 08-13-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I dont know, but i prefer logic and reasoning when making leadership decisions for our country. This whole "faith based" decision making scares me sometimes.

I agree, I prefer logic and reasoning but he's entitled to have friends and talk with whoever he pleases even if we dont like them.

Thorgrim · 08-13-2006, 04:23 PM

I didn't say he "ran the whitehouse" but he has pull, just like the president of iran, he doesn't "decide what course iran should take" but he has pull with the ayatollahs

I'm also disappointed that people here seem like they aren't even going to watch the interview and give it a chance to be a useful part of information, its automatically a fraud not worth seeing

ballz2wallz · 08-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I'm also disappointed that people here seem like they aren't even going to watch the interview and give it a chance to be a useful part of information, its automatically a fraud not worth seeing

who said that?

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-13-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Thats what I was just thinking...

Bush is allowed to talk to robertson, he obviously doesn't subscribe to everything the guy says. I think many agree Robertson is an extremist, I think the guys a nutjob personally. Perhaps somewhere amongst his crap he says some good things, I dunno, but I fail to see how Robertson is running the whitehouse.

Regardless, it's a very sad thing that the president of the world's only superpower does anything other than laugh at Pat Robertson.

ballz2wallz · 08-13-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Regardless, it's a very sad thing that the president of the world's only superpower does anything other than laugh at Pat Robertson.

you'll really go to great lengths to bash bush won't you?

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-13-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

you'll really go to great lengths to bash bush won't you?

that was more a bash of pat robertson.

Thorgrim · 08-13-2006, 08:00 PM

on now!

motivez · 08-13-2006, 08:06 PM

DVRing. I'll watch it later

Kytro · 08-13-2006, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

like he said, the media has done a good job at showing us who he is, not the administration

The media will do whatever causes more people to follow the news.

That is why the cover anything that get people riled up. Scandals, wars, terrorists etc.

News is mostly about sensationalism. If the Administration says "Iran wants nukes" the media report it because it scare some people and makes others upset causing them all to "follow the story"