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Old 08-14-2006, 07:40 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
nuclear technology is also the most powerful weapon technology. if they have it for energy, they have it for weapons.

O RLY? Please list all the nations that have nuclear ENERGY and post a corresponding list of nations that have nuclear WEAPONS. Those two lists should be the same, right?
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:44 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
O RLY? Please list all the nations that have nuclear ENERGY and post a corresponding list of nations that have nuclear WEAPONS. Those two lists should be the same, right?
all i said was it was the same technology.

i shouldn't have to go makes lists for you to know that
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:49 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
all i said was it was the same technology.

i shouldn't have to go makes lists for you to know that

Way to include only the first half of your statement. Let me refresh your memory...

"if they have it for energy, they have it for weapons."


Awaiting the list.
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:52 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
Way to include only the first half of your statement. Let me refresh your memory...

"if they have it for energy, they have it for weapons."


Awaiting the list.
it's the same technology. if they have it for energy, they have it for weapons. what exactly are you arguing? if they can make nuclear energy, they can make nuclear weapons. i'm not sure where the confusion is.
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:54 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
it's the same technology. if they have it for energy, they have it for weapons. what exactly are you arguing? if they can make nuclear energy, they can make nuclear weapons. i'm not sure where the confusion is.

This isn't true at all. That's what the confusion is.
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:58 PM   #86
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This isn't true at all. That's what the confusion is.
i doubt anyone would care if iran had nuclear power if there wasn't the risk of them creating nuclear weapons in the process

you can get both power and weapons from nuclear fission. that's the same technology .
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:03 PM   #87
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i doubt anyone would care if iran had nuclear power if there wasn't the risk of them creating nuclear weapons in the process

So nuclear power != nuclear weapons then, right? What you're saying is that it's only true if you are a member of the anointed "axis of evil." Right?
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:04 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
So nuclear power != nuclear weapons then, right? What you're saying is that it's only true if you are a member of the anointed "axis of evil." Right?
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Nuclear fission is used to produce energy for nuclear power and to drive explosion of nuclear weapons
Nuclear fission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:10 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

What is this proving? It still doesn't make your statement of "If you have nuclear energy you have nuclear weapons" true.
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
What is this proving? It still doesn't make your statement of "If you have nuclear energy you have nuclear weapons" true.
i never made that statement.

let me rephrase it for you:

if they have the technology to make nuclear power, they have the technology to make nuclear weapons.

get it?
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:53 PM   #91
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
i never made that statement.

let me rephrase it for you:

if they have the technology to make nuclear power, they have the technology to make nuclear weapons.

get it?

No matter how many times you "explain" it or "clarify" it...it is still utter nonsense.
 
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:11 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
No matter how many times you "explain" it or "clarify" it...it is still utter nonsense.
Nuclear power technology is turned into nuclear weapon technology by further enrichment.

Iran benefited from being an NPT signatory by being allowed to trade for nuclear power technology and secrets with other NPT nuclear powers. The whole reason the IAEA was inspecting Iran's facilities was to give the rest of the NPT signatories confidence that Iran wouldn't use that technology to develop weapons grade material. Iran violated that confidence by having a secret nuclear program.
 
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Originally Posted by ethyl
Nuclear power technology is turned into nuclear weapon technology by further enrichment.

Iran benefited from being an NPT signatory by being allowed to trade for nuclear power technology and secrets with other NPT nuclear powers. The whole reason the IAEA was inspecting Iran's facilities was to give the rest of the NPT signatories confidence that Iran wouldn't use that technology to develop weapons grade material. Iran violated that confidence by having a secret nuclear program.
And we have a winner...


Did anyone else catch the entire interview on Cspan tonight?
 
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
And we have a winner...


Did anyone else catch the entire interview on Cspan tonight?
further enrichment USING THE SAME TECHNOLOGY
 
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:39 AM   #95
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
further enrichment USING THE SAME TECHNOLOGY
a bomb is quite complex, you have to get a warhead to do what you instead had a whole nuclear plant doing - creating that much force in a warhead is pretty complex stuff
 
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a bomb is quite complex, you have to get a warhead to do what you instead had a whole nuclear plant doing - creating that much force in a warhead is pretty complex stuff
i seriously doubt that's the rate-limiting step in iran's development of nuclear warheads.
 
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i seriously doubt that's the rate-limiting step in iran's development of nuclear warheads.
nah, probably not - just saying, making the bomb go boom isn't easy
 
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nah, probably not - just saying, making the bomb go boom isn't easy
yeah NK showed us that
 
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