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Old 05-13-2007, 01:20 PM   #1
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Newsweek: Democrats dominate GOP in all presidential polls

NEWSWEEK Poll: May 5, 2007 - Newsweek Politics - MSNBC.com

The closest is Rudy down 3 against Hillary
Biggest is Edwards up 43 points against Romney

For the record, Newsweek had Bush winning by 4 in its last 2004 poll

Maybe it's starting to sink in and over the summer we'll see more polls reflect the obvious: People aren't paying attenion to much of the election, but those who do are overwhelmingly picking Democrats

No 2nd term president in his 20s in the polls came close having someone of his party take the office, that and Iraq are going to drag the GOP down, possibly worse than 2006...right now it's looking like a 5-6 seat pickup in the senate and at worse double digit gain in the House as America becomes more and more a country dominated by Democratic voters
 
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:31 PM   #2
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This is going to be the year of the Democrats. America is ready for a change. The Dems have a huge advantage going on. I think once it starts getting closer and the dirty politics start to come into play the GOP will start doing a little better, but overall I think the country wants a Democrat.
 
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
This is going to be the year of the Democrats. America is ready for a change. The Dems have a huge advantage going on. I think once it starts getting closer and the dirty politics start to come into play the GOP will start doing a little better, but overall I think the country wants a Democrat.
I do not see how you can say that. We do not know the nominees. If it's hillary the country most certainly will not want a democrat. If it is Biden or Richardson they will. Obama is still an unknown at this point and not articulate enough with his points.

Hey thorg if you get time check out my Richardson thread I'd like your input.
 
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I do not see how you can say that. We do not know the nominees. If it's hillary the country most certainly will not want a democrat. If it is Biden or Richardson they will. Obama is still an unknown at this point and not articulate enough with his points.

Hey thorg if you get time check out my Richardson thread I'd like your input.
You, naturally, as a white male, underestimate the female vote...this isn't France where the nominee made huge gaffees and looked like an idiot on national television, and looked more like a former model then a politicial

Females will come out in droves more than the polls are showing, she probably has the best chance of beating any GOPer, but liberals want someone more heart that will not only leave a legacy like JFK did that will last for decades, but gain Senate seats
 
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:15 PM   #5
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You, naturally, as a white male, underestimate the female vote...this isn't France where the nominee made huge gaffees and looked like an idiot on national television, and looked more like a former model then a politicial

Females will come out in droves more than the polls are showing, she probably has the best chance of beating any GOPer, but liberals want someone more heart that will not only leave a legacy like JFK did that will last for decades, but gain Senate seats
No, I as a white male do not underestimate the female vote. I've read countless polls from CNN, Gallup, WSJ, NBC, Fox and others that clearly show Hillary would lose in the general election almost without regard of who she was running against.
 
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Unless the Democrats manage to squander their approval ratings and fail to stick up for what they promised going into this midterm election, I would put money down that we're going to have a Democratic President come '08.

We'll see as time moves on, but the Republicans are going to have to distance themselves from Bush and all he's done, which leaves them very little success to run on for the last 8 years.. aside from personal ones, but overall the GOP has a massive image problem, and it's very much deserved.

You can see what going closer to Bush has done for people like McCain, who used to be well respected on both sides of the isle, but he sold his maverick badge on ebay and traded it in for one with a picture of Bush and the smiley, and now he's become a joke for many on the left who used to embrace him, the independents have bailed, and his overnight flip flop support hasn't won him over the conservatives either..

I think we'll see whoever really intends to stick it out really start to bail on Bush come September when it's obvious the surge isn't working..
 
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I'd like to see Biden or Richardson get the office.
 
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
No, I as a white male do not underestimate the female vote. I've read countless polls from CNN, Gallup, WSJ, NBC, Fox and others that clearly show Hillary would lose in the general election almost without regard of who she was running against.
Polls are by people who aren't paying attention, and many do show Hillary either tied or in the lead, and this is before people have tied Rudy to Bush or Iraq, or his other problems

Everyone knows Hillary's problems, does a swing voter in Miami-Dade county know about Rudy's problem that 9/11's heroes...NY firefighters, dislike/hate him? That he didn't prepare properly and it caused many to get serious illnesses from city cleanups after 9/11

More importantly, his ties to corruption?
In Private Sector, Giuliani Parlayed Fame Into Wealth - washingtonpost.com

Rudy is at the top right now, everyone goes "oh yes Rudy, tough, but very moderate, americans hero and mayor"

He can only go down, and he's already losing to Hillary in some polls if not tied
 
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Women historically do not vote for women into high positions.
 
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:50 PM   #10
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Women historically do not vote for women into high positions.
CNN.com - Elections 2006

She won the female vote

She's an incumbent, well ok how about:

CNN.com - Elections 2006

Shows right there McCaskill won the female vote, despite not being particularly tough looking or making a hawkish campaign during war, she also almost won the governorship, with the female vote...in MISSOURI
 
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