The Immigration Deal they want to slide through the Congress

[Thorgrim]

Every poor district needs artificially created jobs

Actually a basic level, what they need is investment, whether it comes from the private sector or federal government makes no difference

Will you address the substance of my post, or still claim that every bit of land is being used, despite the fact that Nebraska's lands are so neglected in areas that they spend 10 years without any use, allowing a court to award title to others who have been using their land as their home or business for 10 YEARS without the owner ever warning them ONCE

[thomez]

Ohio has plenty of spare room for people if needed, infact it could easily double in population without much fuss... PA has room, NY has room, WV has room, KY has room, VA has room, TN has room.... etc etc etc... the country is nowhere near capacity.

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Every poor district needs artificially created jobs

Actually a basic level, what they need is investment, whether it comes from the private sector or federal government makes no difference

Will you address the substance of my post, or still claim that every bit of land is being used, despite the fact that Nebraska's lands are so neglected in areas that they spend 10 years without any use, allowing a court to award title to others who have been using their land as their home or business for 10 YEARS without the owner ever warning them ONCE

You can list 30 examples, and it still doesn't make it any more valid. The fact remains that at least 90% of the state is used for something and the other 10% is unusable. Land that is useful, but idle, might make up 0.05% of the total state. They are the few and far between acceptions, not the rule. We are near economic capacity in this state. The only way jobs are created in any signficant number is via federal funding...like in other employment troubled states.

Useful land can only be utilized for so many years before it becomes useless for a few years, while it recovers nutrients. It is one reason why corn ethanol for alternative fuels is not a long term solution. You can only grow corn in the same field for so many seasons before your soil is useless.

Anyway, it still does not change the fact they are an economic burden, here against the law, and hired against the law. We don't need them.

[thomez]

Increased population can increase job opportunities - the service industry, manufacturing, government, education, police, etc etc etc all have to grow to deal with more people.

[Thorgrim]

So any example I give is just "0.05%" and no matter how many examples I show, I'd have to get geological team to survery the entire state before anyone could ever convince you that Nebraska has ANY room for a hispanic hard-working family

Which is ridiculous, considering just one of those cases could give land enough to sustain a hispanic family, and those lands were "bought" with nothing, so there goes your cost problems, they just have to find all the abandoned land (which, by the cases, seems to be significant) and move in...Nebraska land owners are so uncaring about their "maximized" land that you can live there for TEN YEARS without a problem, and then it's yours?

You said 30 cases, a quick glance finds about 20 recent cases (the search cut me off at 20 results)

1 Wil-A-Dar Farms, Inc. v. Five B Farms, Inc., 2005 WL 1949486, *5+ (Neb.App. Aug 16, 2005) HN: 4,5 (N.W.2d)
2 Huffman v. Peterson, 718 N.W.2d 522, 527+, 272 Neb. 62, 65+ (Neb. Jul 28, 2006) (NO. S-04-941) HN: 3,5 (N.W.2d)
3 Nye v. Fire Group Partnership, 657 N.W.2d 220, 226, 265 Neb. 438, 445 (Neb. Mar 07, 2003) (NO. S-02-543) HN: 9 (N.W.2d)
4 Putnam v. Fortenberry, 589 N.W.2d 838, 842, 256 Neb. 266, 269 (Neb. Feb 19, 1999) (NO. S-97-1235) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)
5 Wanha v. Long, 587 N.W.2d 531, 538+, 255 Neb. 849, 855+ (Neb. Dec 31, 1998) (NO. S-97-808) HN: 6 (N.W.2d)
6 Campagna v. Higday, 714 N.W.2d 770, 777+, 14 Neb.App. 749, 757+ (Neb.App. May 16, 2006) HN: 3,5 (N.W.2d)
7 Madson v. TBT Ltd. Liability Co., 686 N.W.2d 85, 96, 12 Neb.App. 773, 786 (Neb.App. Aug 31, 2004) HN: 9 (N.W.2d)
8 Wilke v. McDermott, 2003 WL 1873299, *6+ (Neb.App. Apr 15, 2003) (NO. A-01-1374) HN: 6,7 (N.W.2d)
9 Rayburn v. Darrell Bruns Const., Inc., 2002 WL 31055527, *9+ (Neb.App. Sep 17, 2002) (NO. A-01-243) HN: 6,7 (N.W.2d)
10 Mattson v. Moreno, 2002 WL 75771, *3 (Neb.App. Jan 22, 2002) (NO. A-00-886) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)
11 Melling v. Mattley, 637 N.W.2d 661, 665, 10 Neb.App. 745, 748 (Neb.App. Jan 08, 2002) (NO. A-00-857) HN: 1,5 (N.W.2d)
12 Cunningham v. Russell, 2000 WL 1207158, *4 (Neb.App. Aug 22, 2000) (NO. A-98-1106) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)
13 Besch v. Schumacher, 599 N.W.2d 846, 850+, 8 Neb.App. 638, 643+ (Neb.App. Aug 31, 1999) HN: 1,2 (N.W.2d)
14 Cottages of Hastings, LTD. v. Murphy, 1999 WL 419965, *3 (Neb.App. Jun 22, 1999) (NO. A-98-004) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)
15 Kaupp v. Kaupp Herford Ranch, Inc., 1999 WL 308612, *5+ (Neb.App. May 18, 1999) (NO. A-97-1356) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)
16 Carr v. Van Epps, 2003 WL 145559, *3+ (Neb.Dist.Ct. Jan 21, 2003) (NO. CI00-3) HN: 6,7,9 (N.W.2d)
17 Wilke v. McDermott, 2001 WL 34035658, *2+ (Neb.Dist.Ct. Nov 07, 2001) (NO. CI00-58) HN: 6,7,9 (N.W.2d)
18 Burk v. Demaray, 2001 WL 34034512, *3+ (Neb.Dist.Ct. Feb 12, 2001) (NO. CI00-58) HN: 6,7,8 (N.W.2d)
19 Rush Creek Land and Live Stock Co. v. Chain 255 Neb. 347, 586 N.W.2d 284
20 Village of Winslow v. Sheets, 622 N.W.2d 595, 601, 261 Neb. 203, 209 (Neb. Feb 09, 2001) (NO. S-99-1224) HN: 2 (N.W.2d)

[DosEquis]

The total land area of Nebraska is 49.2 million acres. In 2002 the total farm land was 45.9 or 93.3% of our state.

In that same year land in house lots, ponds, roads, wasteland, etc is 1.06 million, aka 2% of our state.

We use most of our shit. No, not every example you give is 0.05% of our total state. All of the examples you can find combined are probably 0.05% of our total state.

[thomez]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

The total land area of Nebraska is 49.2 million acres. In 2002 the total farm land was 45.9 or 93.3% of our state.

In that same year land in house lots, ponds, roads, wasteland, etc is 1.06 million, aka 2% of our state.

We use most of our shit. No, not every example you give is 0.05% of our total state. All of the examples you can find combined are probably 0.05% of our total state.

when you can no longer build out, you build up... there is room for another 20 million people easily in Nebraska if it was necessary

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

The total land area of Nebraska is 49.2 million acres. In 2002 the total farm land was 45.9 or 93.3% of our state.

In that same year land in house lots, ponds, roads, wasteland, etc is 1.06 million, aka 2% of our state.

We use most of our shit. No, not every example you give is 0.05% of our total state. All of the examples you can find combined are probably 0.05% of our total state.

93% is the DECLARED farm land, they don't have inspectors to see who didn't even bother to plant crops for the past decade because they are simply too caught up in other areas and don't want to sell the land because they don't think they'd get a good price or it'd be too much of a hassle

Also, like Thomez said, you can build up in SOME areas, if Nebraksa was 80% farming, it'd still be a huge farming state, that other 20% could be urban

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Actually a basic level, what they need is investment, whether it comes from the private sector or federal government makes no difference

[Stylerod]

WASHINGTON - Senate leaders agreed Monday that they would wait until June to take final action on a bipartisan plan to give millions of unlawful immigrants legal status.


The measure, which also tightens border security and workplace enforcement measures, unites a group of influential liberals, centrists and conservatives and has White House backing, but it has drawn criticism from across the political spectrum. In a nod to that opposition, Senate leaders won't seek to complete it before a hoped-for Memorial Day deadline.

"It would be to the best interests of the Senate ... that we not try to finish this bill this week," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., as the chamber began debate on the volatile issue. "I think we could, but I'm afraid the conclusion wouldn't be anything that anyone wanted."

Senate puts off immigration action - Yahoo! News

Well no shit Sherlock. At least there are a few people thinking about this and not racing it and pretending not to know that most people DO NOT WANT THIS. Thank you Harry Reid.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Well no shit Sherlock. At least there are a few people thinking about this and not racing it and pretending not to know that most people DO NOT WANT THIS. Thank you Harry Reid.

Both my Senators do not want this thing to pass and Coburn specifically has tried to get the thing to committee.

[DosEquis]

FARMERS BRANCH, Texas - A federal judge Monday blocked enforcement of a voter-endorsed ordinance preventing apartment rentals to most illegal immigrants in this Dallas suburb, opponents of the ban said.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

FARMERS BRANCH, Texas - A federal judge Monday blocked enforcement of a voter-endorsed ordinance preventing apartment rentals to most illegal immigrants in this Dallas suburb, opponents of the ban said.

Judges making laws again, eh?

[thomez]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Judges making laws again, eh?

you can't really say either way until you see how he justified his opposition

if he believed it was unconstitutional, then he was within his bounds

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Judges making laws again, eh?

It's called case law, and it has a 200+ year tradition in the United States

It sounds more like a property law issue than a constitutional issue...potential tenants have rights in their application, and landlords are not allowed to force people to show them a certain level of detail from their personal lives in situations, I imagine it is probably from that line of logic

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Well no shit Sherlock. At least there are a few people thinking about this and not racing it and pretending not to know that most people DO NOT WANT THIS. Thank you Harry Reid.

I suspect members of both parties had too many angry calls and e-mails over the weekend. So now they are going to have a cooling off period.

When do they learn? This is just like the Clinton Health Care the government was going to give you and never take away. Sound so nice and humanitarian at first. Did they really think nobody would look at the details, the public impact, and the costs?