Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby 
You're arguing against a fundamental tenet of libertarian beliefs. Obviously we think you're 100% wrong.
I'm not arguing against the belief, I am pointing out that beliefs are not inherant, they are based on ideas. I can't see how anyone can claim that a human construct simply exists without it being an idea.
Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby And I didn't say that all things subjective to human existence are "rights." Murder isn't a right, and I never said it was. Nice straw man, though.
A good point, a little bit too much cow-is-table logic. What I was trying to convey, unsuccessfully, was that human existence entails a great deal of complex thought and ideas, everything is related to this.
05-28-2007, 03:25 AM
