**CIA**ABC demonstrating blind hatred for this administration and hurting the country

[lew]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

It wasn't a violation of the US constitution. It wasn't against international law. If it is classified keep your mouth shut. How can you defend this?

We're not defending that ABC is leaking the story.


We're appalled that our government is even considering doing this.



This is horrible news.

[Scrum]

This is just the type of thing the current administration should be doing.

Iraq is a clusterfuck and Osama is free as a bird. Let's destabilize Iran.

Good for ABC reporting this. These people shouldn't have the power to hide behind classification after all the fuck-ups they have on their record.

[Thorgrim]

ABC slants right-wing too much for many progressives who don't watch the channel anymore

The Pathway to 9/11 was one big clinton smear and bush cheer, it was so dishonest the lead actor wanted it changed

Their political director went on oreally and said they were going to give more conservative voices because the other stations were liberal

And all this information is so old, Seymour Hersh has been reporting roughly the same thing from probably the same sources for over a year

And Iran has already warned us that we've been doing this...check out reuters, should we arrest Iran?
Tehran, Iran, Jun. 09 – A top cleric accused the Iran’s “enemies” on Friday of attempting to create ethnic divisions inside the country.

“Creating divisions and enmity inside the country is on the enemy’s agenda”, Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, who heads the powerful Guardians Council, told Friday prayers worshippers in Tehran. His sermon was aired live on state television.

Everyone in the world saw Iran say that, and no one...I mean fucking NO ONE doubted it...now some US official tells ABC after Hersh already reported on it like a year ago, and it's big news?

I'm sorry, this thread makes no sense to me

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by lew

We're not defending that ABC is leaking the story.


We're appalled that our government is even considering doing this.



This is horrible news.

What should the government do with Iran?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

What should the government do with Iran?

surveillance and other intelligence gathering to put together a case that they really are a real and credible threat to U.S. security. If they are, bomb them. If they aren't, leave them alone and let other countries that Iran is actually a threat to (like Israel) spend their time and resources dealing with it.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Publius

surveillance and other intelligence gathering to put together a case that they really are a real and credible threat to U.S. security. If they are, bomb them. If they aren't, leave them alone and let other countries that Iran is actually a threat to (like Israel) spend their time and resources dealing with it.

Or if we could do it without bombing them through espionage we shouldn't do it?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Or if we could do it without bombing them through espionage we shouldn't do it?

If that espionage doesn't involve tampering with the free market and punishing vast swaths of innocent civilians who have committed no crime, I'd be fine with that too.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Publius

If that espionage doesn't involve tampering with the free market and punishing vast swaths of innocent civilians who have committed no crime, I'd be fine with that too.

I find it strange to point out to you that Ron Paul would disagree

[lew]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

What should the government do with Iran?

Nothing.



We build up a very strong defense.


If we get attacked or have 100% certainty that Iran is about to attack, then bomb them.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I hate to rain on y'all's parade, but did you ever think that whoever the sources are told ABC because what the prez&co are doing is wrong?

So whoever is the source and their "opinions" on what is a right and wrong action are now running the country?

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by lew

Nothing.



We build up a very strong defense.


If we get attacked or have 100% certainty that Iran is about to attack, then bomb them.

So wait till we're attacked again?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

So wait till we're attacked again?

When's the last time a country attacked us...Japan?

I'm sorry I don't see the Iranian fleet off the Pacific

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

When's the last time a country attacked us...Japan?

I'm sorry I don't see the Iranian fleet off the Pacific

Because all attacks come in the form of Navy/Military operations...Embassy bombings ring a bell? What about sept 11th?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I find it strange to point out to you that Ron Paul would disagree

And? I also disagree with Paul as far as the abortion issue and the "sound money" (gold standard) issue goes, along with a few other things. I'm not 100% behind Ron Paul and his policies, I just think he's MUCH better than any other option. Here in the real world it's almost impossible to find a candidate you agree 100% with, but I agree probably 80% with Paul versus at most 25% or 30% with any other candidate.

[lew]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

So wait till we're attacked again?

If we stopped meddling in the Middle East, we wouldn't be getting attacked in the first place.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Publius

And? I also disagree with Paul as far as the abortion issue and the "sound money" (gold standard) issue goes, along with a few other things. I'm not 100% behind Ron Paul and his policies, I just think he's MUCH better than any other option. Here in the real world it's almost impossible to find a candidate you agree 100% with, but I agree probably 80% with Paul versus at most 25% or 30% with any other candidate.

I feel the same way about the Democratic Party, amen brother

apologies, i thought you were more of a Ron Paul fanatic than you are

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

How on earth any responsible news organization could go forward with this information is beyond me. It is almost as if ABC wants us to invade Iran to make Bush look even worse. So they can say "see I told you so". ABC and a couple other news outlets have repeatedly undermined the US military and our CIA/FBI/Anti Terror operations from the beginning.

A story is a story. If it generates interest, chances are they will publish it.

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

This is the kind of crap that really damages this country. Many have known for a long time that Iranian people like the US that they want government reform and that an all out invasion would simply turn those people against the US. Instead we try to aid inside rebel forces to perhaps build enough opposition to overthrow the government and what happens? One of the programs via the CIA is outted by the media. So much for making a secret operation secret. It looks as if the media will undermine this country whenever they get the chance. So much for watching ABC

No what damages the US is foreign policy.

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I think any current members of our government that leaked this should be brought up on treason charges.

If they broke the law and can be located, sure.

[Thorgrim]

I don't even think it even made the abc evening news

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Because all attacks come in the form of Navy/Military operations...Embassy bombings ring a bell? What about sept 11th?

404 attack from a nation not found - any evidence Iran backed Sept 11?