Who's responsible for the kid?

JaJae · 05-25-2007, 11:39 AM

I heard about a story on the radio yesterday that I thought was quite interesting and sparked interesting debate.

The background of the story for purposes of debate is this:

A woman is seeing two men of which she claims neither knew she was cheating on them. She gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. The doctors go back and attempt to figure out the day of conception. On that day she slept with both men. Who is responsible for the baby?

I know what you're thinking... DNA test right? Well the problem with that is that the two men just so happen to be identical twins and thus have the same DNA.

It looks like she's going through with having the child. Who should pay child support? Should they split and each pay a percentage?

Our current court system in regards to child support typically does what's in the best interest of the child, not the adults. What would that be if anything?

Personally I think if she goes through with having the kid both men should be off the hook because you can't legally prove either one of them are responsible. I think it's a freak incident and I feel horrible the kid won't have a daddy, but I think only the mother can be blamed for that.

Linzyhop · 05-25-2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I heard about a story on the radio yesterday that I thought was quite interesting and sparked interesting debate.

The background of the story for purposes of debate is this:

A woman is seeing two men of which she claims neither knew she was cheating on them. She gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. The doctors go back and attempt to figure out the day of conception. On that day she slept with both men. Who is responsible for the baby?

I know what you're thinking... DNA test right? Well the problem with that is that the two men just so happen to be identical twins and thus have the same DNA.

It looks like she's going through with having the child. Who should pay child support? Should they split and each pay a percentage?

Our current court system in regards to child support typically does what's in the best interest of the child, not the adults. What would that be if anything?

Personally I think if she goes through with having the kid both men should be off the hook because you can't legally prove either one of them are responsible. I think it's a freak incident and I feel horrible the kid won't have a daddy, but I think only the mother can be blamed for that.

that's fucked up. but how can she have a relationship with both men with out the other finding out? i mean, she had to be having a relationship with one of them, and cheating on that one with the other.. otherwise they weren't very close being brothers....

motivez · 05-25-2007, 11:42 AM

If they can't legally prove one is the father, then I don't see how they can be held financially or otherwise responsible

Aren't the brothers twins or something like that? I remember seeing something about it on

JaJae · 05-25-2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

that's fucked up. but how can she have a relationship with both men with out the other finding out? i mean, she had to be having a relationship with one of them, and cheating on that one with the other.. otherwise they weren't very close being brothers....

I don't know how long they were dating before she got pregnant. But yea, that was someone people kept bringing up was that they were surprised the brothers didn't know about her. But she claims they didn't know and they also say they didn't know.

She remembers sleeping with both men because on that day she had tickets to an afternoon sporting event. She slept with one brother in the afternoon and then slept with the other at night.

JaJae · 05-25-2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Aren't the brothers twins or something like that? I remember seeing something about it on

Yea that's where the whole problem comes into play. They have the same DNA so they can't do a DNA test on the child. On top of that the she slept with both men on the day the doctors say the child was conceived. Unless they have some other way of figuring out that I'm not aware of.

thomez · 05-25-2007, 11:58 AM

fucking slut shouldn't get a dime from either

Roonie · 05-25-2007, 11:58 AM

They should split it 50/50. They both played so they should both pay.

Linzyhop · 05-25-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Roonie

They should split it 50/50. They both played so they should both pay.

question is, is she asking them to help her? if she is, that's a big morality issue....

six6ftr · 05-25-2007, 12:13 PM

I think that neither should pay unless they can prove which one is the father.

motivez · 05-25-2007, 12:15 PM

It's an interesting question, though.. it's like that episode of Matlock or whatever where they bring in a twin, have the witness identify them, and then they bring in the one that's actually on trial and the judge dismisses it.

If one of them murdered someone and they weren't able to prove which it was (lack of alibi or whatever), should they drop the case?

Linzyhop · 05-25-2007, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

It's an interesting question, though.. it's like that episode of Matlock or whatever where they bring in a twin, have the witness identify them, and then they bring in the one that's actually on trial and the judge dismisses it.

If one of them murdered someone and they weren't able to prove which it was (lack of alibi or whatever), should they drop the case?

their fingerprints are different.

motivez · 05-25-2007, 12:23 PM

What if they only had DNA evidence though?

Linzyhop · 05-25-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

What if they only had DNA evidence though?

well what about alibis, and probable cause.. different situations....

motivez · 05-25-2007, 12:27 PM

I dunno, I guess the point is there needs to be other methods for determining stuff, or a more detailed DNA test of some sort that can somehow distinguish

6SpeedTA95 · 05-25-2007, 01:11 PM

Either you get a more detailed DNA test, even identical twins have different DNA or you hold her solely responsible IMO.

Scrum · 05-25-2007, 01:19 PM

If they can't prove that one specific brother is the father, then they are both responsible.

They both slept with the woman and they both share DNA with the child.

JaJae · 05-25-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Roonie

They should split it 50/50. They both played so they should both pay.

They were both played. That was one of the more popular arguments I heard. I just think legally that can't be right. And morally I think it's wrong. If it were criminal charges and the girl were raped and they couldn't figure out who did it should they share the prison term?

I think whatever the judge decides on this is going to be tricky.

DosEquis · 05-25-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

If they can't prove that one specific brother is the father, then they are both responsible.

They both slept with the woman and they both share DNA with the child.

QFT

Roonie · 05-25-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

If it were criminal charges and the girl were raped and they couldn't figure out who did it should they share the prison term?

I think whatever the judge decides on this is going to be tricky.

Nope......... and agreed tricky decision.

Publius · 05-25-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

QFT

so you think if the situation was that a woman was raped by one of two twin brothers, but they can't prove which one (though they KNOW based on DNA that one of them did it) both of them should serve time for rape?