What do you think of the mysterious deaths surrounding the Clintons?

[JaJae]

I'm not one for conspiracy theories and don't really know what to think about this, but it does seem strange that so many people would mysteriously die at opportune times for the Clintons' political careers.

Over three dozen people close to the Clinton political careers mysteriously died over Bill's rise and during his presidency.

Some examples:

James McDougal - He was Bill's partner in the Whitewater scandal. He was a key witness in Starr's case and was being held in prison. He died shortly after cooperating with Starr. Once he started cooperating prison guards stopped giving him his heart medication and he died of a heart attack in solitary confinement.

Mary Caitrin Mahoney - A former intern of the White House. Rumors were out that someone by the name of "M" was going to be a key witness on sexual harassment charges against Clinton. She was suspected of being the person. She was killed execution style while working at Starbucks. No money was taken. Monical Lewinsky was later recorded as saying she was afraid of ending up like Mary.

Vince Foster - Clinton's lawyer from Little Rock, AK. He was found in a Washington DC park with a gunshot to the head. The person who found him said there was no gun in sight of the body. They ruled it a suicide.

Rob Brown - Secretary of Commerce and DNC chairman died in a plane crash. He was being investigated and publicly agreed to cut a deal with prosecutors. When his body was removed from the plane they saw he had been shot in the head before the plane crashed.

Paul Tulley - DNC political director found dead in a Little Rock Hotel Room.

Ed Willey - Found by hunters in the woods, he was shot. He was killed the same day his wife made claims she was groped by Clinton in the Oval Office.

Jerry "Luther" Parks - Gunned down in Little Rock, AK. His son said he was working on a dossier of the Clinton's sexual scandals. His files were mysteriously stolen from his house shortly before his murder.

Kathy Ferguson and Bill Shelton - Ferguson was a possible witness to the Paula Jones case. Her ex-husband was the co-defendant with Clinton in the case. Five days after Jones filed her sexual harassment charges she was found shot in the head with several suitcases found nearby as if she was getting read to run away. Her fiance, Bill Shelton an Arkansas police officer, publicly spoke out against Kathy's death being ruled a suicide. He was later found shot in the head and laid over her grave. His death was also called a suicide.

Suzanne Coleman - She allegedly had an affair with Clinton and became pregnant while one of his Arkansas law students. The baby was rumored to have been Bill's. She was found shot in the back of the head. Even though she was shot in the back, it was still ruled a suicide.

And on and on... Notice all the people damning to Clinton being shot in the head. Also, all the deaths in Little Rock and Arkansas being ruled suicides while he was governor or in positions of power (Attorney general).

There are more and more, like a dozen of Clinton's body guards dying from unnatural causes, Whitewater investigators falling off hotel balconies, etc.

Does there seem to be too many for this all to be a coincidence? I would have to say it definitely is pretty strange.

[6SpeedTA95]

There are definately too many of them to be coincidence. Something has gone on in the past and that is one of the things that scares me about hillary getting elected. The Clintons have a habbit of silencing their critics and those who knew of illegal behavior that the Clintons were engaging in. All the witnesses somehow wind up dead? Lead investigator(s) conveniently wind up dead?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

All the witnesses somehow wind up dead? Lead investigator(s) conveniently wind up dead?

Yea in his backyard... Washington DC parks, Arkansas public areas, Little Rock, etc.. places where Clinton has authority to pressure them into being ruled as suicides. Or they die in plane crashes in the third world with bullet holes in the top of their heads.

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm not one for conspiracy theories and don't really know what to think about this, but it does seem strange that so many people would mysteriously die at opportune times for the Clintons' political careers.

Over three dozen people close to the Clinton political careers mysteriously died over Bill's rise and during his presidency.

Some examples:

James McDougal - He was Bill's partner in the Whitewater scandal. He was a key witness in Starr's case and was being held in prison. He died shortly after cooperating with Starr. Once he started cooperating prison guards stopped giving him his heart medication and he died of a heart attack in solitary confinement.

Mary Caitrin Mahoney - A former intern of the White House. Rumors were out that someone by the name of "M" was going to be a key witness on sexual harassment charges against Clinton. She was suspected of being the person. She was killed execution style while working at Starbucks. No money was taken. Monical Lewinsky was later recorded as saying she was afraid of ending up like Mary.

Vince Foster - Clinton's lawyer from Little Rock, AK. He was found in a Washington DC park with a gunshot to the head. The person who found him said there was no gun in sight of the body. They ruled it a suicide.

Rob Brown - Secretary of Commerce and DNC chairman died in a plane crash. He was being investigated and publicly agreed to cut a deal with prosecutors. When his body was removed from the plane they saw he had been shot in the head before the plane crashed.

Paul Tulley - DNC political director found dead in a Little Rock Hotel Room.

Ed Willey - Found by hunters in the woods, he was shot. He was killed the same day his wife made claims she was groped by Clinton in the Oval Office.

Jerry "Luther" Parks - Gunned down in Little Rock, AK. His son said he was working on a dossier of the Clinton's sexual scandals. His files were mysteriously stolen from his house shortly before his murder.

Kathy Ferguson and Bill Shelton - Ferguson was a possible witness to the Paula Jones case. Her ex-husband was the co-defendant with Clinton in the case. Five days after Jones filed her sexual harassment charges she was found shot in the head with several suitcases found nearby as if she was getting read to run away. Her fiance, Bill Shelton an Arkansas police officer, publicly spoke out against Kathy's death being ruled a suicide. He was later found shot in the head and laid over her grave. His death was also called a suicide.

Suzanne Coleman - She allegedly had an affair with Clinton and became pregnant while one of his Arkansas law students. The baby was rumored to have been Bill's. She was found shot in the back of the head. Even though she was shot in the back, it was still ruled a suicide.

And on and on... Notice all the people damning to Clinton being shot in the head. Also, all the deaths in Little Rock and Arkansas being ruled suicides while he was governor or in positions of power (Attorney general).

There are more and more, like a dozen of Clinton's body guards dying from unnatural causes, Whitewater investigators falling off hotel balconies, etc.

Does there seem to be too many for this all to be a coincidence? I would have to say it definitely is pretty strange.

I'm going to be perfectly frank and say that this seems like the ramblings of a nutter without any unbiased news articles and some hard facts. It's not that I don't trust you or anything, because on a personal level, I trust that you wouldn't intentionally make any of this up.

But I think it would be wise to consider what one might think if they were to StumbleUpon or Digg this thread. One might dismiss this posit as nuttery on par with the Bush/Illuminati/Mason theorists.

So... Do you have any articles or facts that you can throw in there?

[thomez]

yeah, what is the source for this.... info?

[JaJae]

The idea was to Digg this thread...

But you can google their names. For example: James McDougal.. first google hit:
Whitewater Figure James McDougal Dies In Prison - March 8, 1998

After being convicted on 18 felony counts, McDougal began to cooperate with Starr's investigation in August 1996 in exchange for a reduced prison sentence. Initially facing 84 years, he was sentenced to a three-year term and would have been released in September 1999.

His death means Clinton and his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, no longer face the prospect of McDougal giving damaging testimony against them. McDougal had testified extensively to the Whitewater grand jury in Little Rock, Ark.

[thomez]

Clinton Body Count-Clinton friends who've ended up dead-Truth! and Fiction!

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by JaJae

The idea was to Digg this thread...

But you can google their names. For example: James McDougal.. first google hit:
Whitewater Figure James McDougal Dies In Prison - March 8, 1998

It doesn't say that prison authorities stopped giving him his medication.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

It doesn't say that prison authorities stopped giving him his medication.

Report: McDougal had no access to heart drug, doctors just before death - September 14, 1998

I'm not saying everything I've posted isn't exactly one-sided. But it is strange that so many people mysteriously died just before they could have ended Clinton's career or severely harmed it.

You can go down the list of upwards of 50 people who were mysteriously killed or died just before testifying or damaging the Clintons and say "well this case doesn't seem too bad.." But by the time you're done you're like.. wait, but there's 50 friggin people dead. Where do you draw the line of coincidence and possible correlation?

[Kytro]

First of all I won't discount the possibility, but I will remind people that humans tend to see patterns where none exist.

[thomez]

where*

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Report: McDougal had no access to heart drug, doctors just before death - September 14, 1998

I'm not saying everything I've posted isn't exactly one-sided. But it is strange that so many people mysteriously died just before they could have ended Clinton's career or severely harmed it.

You can go down the list of upwards of 50 people who were mysteriously killed or died just before testifying or damaging the Clintons and say "well this case doesn't seem too bad.." But by the time you're done you're like.. wait, but there's 50 friggin people dead. Where do you draw the line of coincidence and possible correlation?

You know. I think things like this are just stupid. But these just seems strange.

He had been separated from other prisoners the day before for refusing to give a urine sample for a routine drug test. McDougal said he was unable to provide the sample because of his medications and complained of dizziness after trying for five hours, according to the report.

The government report said that during the move, guards did not find the heart medication because they did not want to wake McDougal's cell mate by searching for it, according to the Star-Telegram story Sunday.

One of the drugs, nitroglycerin, could have bought McDougal some time after he suffered a heart attack, said a prison official who asked not to be identified told the paper.

The guards did not want to wake his cell mate? You have got to be fucking kidding me. That just does seem fishy.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

The guards did not want to wake his cell mate? You have got to be fucking kidding me. That just does seem fishy.

They moved him in the middle of the night because he couldn't pee during a urine sample? And they didn't follow protocol and take his heart medication out of the cell because they wanted to be considerate to a roommate?

Yea it doesn't make sense.

[Phantom]

As a President, governor etc. he is going to be "closely connected to" many more people than the average Joe. I think some of the individual deaths are more suspicious than the group considered together.

[Donkey®]

Bullshit. You can probably do this with most Presidents.

[RMNIXON]

I don't like the way the press backed off so quickly after the Vince Foster death. To many odd things that did not fit. I am not saying it points directly to the President or First Lady, but something was not right about that and the press turned into total wimps afraid to offend anyone if they asked too many questions.


If they found Karl Rove dead in the same way what would you think?

[garbagemanlb]

Fire can't melt steel!

[Thorgrim]

yeah, just about every fact-checking site has called this total BS or just straight up FALSE

Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Clinton Body Count

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

If they found Karl Rove dead in the same way what would you think?

You don't want to know the answer to this.