Terror Plot at JFK New York prevented!

RMNIXON · 06-02-2007, 02:14 PM

NEW YORK -- As first reported by NewsChannel4's Jonathan Dienst, three people were arrested and one other was being sought Saturday in connection to a plot to blow up jet-fuel lines at John F. Kennedy International Airport, officials said.

Four people have been charged. Three suspects are in custody: Russell Defreitas, Kareem Ibrihim and Abdul Kadir. Another suspect, Abdul Nur is still at large.

Defreitas is to be arrainged Saturday in Brooklyn on terror conspiracy charges.

Sources said Defreitas, a former cargo worker at JFK allegedly began to plot attacking the US last July or August. Defeitas sought help in carrying out a plan and went to an FBI informant, who gathered information about the plot.

U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf called it "one of the most chilling plots imaginable."

"The devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable," she said at a news conference.

Defreitas is a U.S. citizen with roots in Guyana.

Kadir, a former member of Parliament in Guyana, was arrested in Trinidad for attempting to secure money for "terrorist operations," according to a Guyanese police commander who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Kadir, a Muslim, left his position in Parliament last year. Muslims make up about 9 percent of the former Dutch and British colony's 770,000 population, mostly from the Sunni sect.

Sources said counter-terrorism officials have been following the plot for a little less than one year.

BREAKING NEWS: Terror Plot Thwarted At Kennedy Airport

Sources said the plot involved a plan to blow up a BuckEye jet-fuel pipeline at JFK setting off a potential massive explosion. BuckEye provides fuel to all three NYC-area airports.

Sources said the plot involved putting explosives inside the fuel pipeline but realized that "it was not technically feasible."

Officials said the plot may also have included plans to hit the JFK terminal buildings and aircraft, in addition to the fuel lines.

Sources said the planning stages of the plot involved surveillance of JFK airport as well as scouting out US properties in Guyana for possible attacks.

Aviation officials said there is no major threat to air travel related to this plot since it was caught in the developmental stages.

One law enforcement official said: "[There was] credible intent to commit violence but it was not operational."

Officials said the suspects never got hold of explosive devices.

"This was the ultimate hand-and-glove operation between NYPD and FBI," said U.S. Rep. Peter King, a Republican from Long Island.

The arrests mark the latest in a series of alleged homegrown terrorism plots targeting high-profile American landmarks.

A year ago, seven men were arrested in what officials called the early stages of a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and destroy FBI offices and other buildings.

A month later, authorities broke up a plot to bomb underwater New York City train tunnels to flood lower Manhattan.

And six people were arrested a month ago in an alleged plot to unleash a bloody rampage on Fort Dix in New Jersey.

Stay with WNBC.com for the latest on this developing story.

Terror Plot "One Of The Most Chilling Imaginable" - News Story - WNBC | New York

On the networks as I post. What a great job our intel people did on this one! Who will be the frist to suggest this a NeoCon Plot? That it is our fault? Or it does not matter because a War on Terror does not exist?

RMNIXON · 06-02-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Sources said Defreitas, a former cargo worker at JFK allegedly began to plot attacking the US last July or August. Defeitas sought help in carrying out a plan and went to an FBI informant, who gathered information about the plot.

Who is going to call the ACLU? Obviously this was entrapment by the FBI!

Galactic Gigolo · 06-02-2007, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Or it does not matter because a War on Terror does not exist?

You have the art of taking words out of context down to a tee. You always impress me.

It'll be interesting to watch this unravel.

Donkey® · 06-02-2007, 03:37 PM

Pathetic attempt by the government to spin this into more than what it was...just like 99% of ALL "terror" cases in the US....

RMNIXON · 06-02-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Galactic Gigolo

You have the art of taking words out of context down to a tee. You always impress me.

It'll be interesting to watch this unravel.

I am just trying to get ahead of the wave.

Somebody should pay me!

RMNIXON · 06-02-2007, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Pathetic attempt by the government to spin this into more than what it was...just like 99% of ALL "terror" cases in the US....

My straight man just entered the thread........

motivez · 06-02-2007, 05:45 PM

I think it's great that they were capable of using the current system in place with policing and informants in order to prevent this from going any further than it did.

It's important to realize though, that these people (like several of the others plots that have been stopped) were bumbling idiots with no actual capability of carrying out their plans.

RMNIXON · 06-02-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I think it's great that they were capable of using the current system in place with policing and informants in order to prevent this from going any further than it did.

It's important to realize though, that these people (like several of the others plots that have been stopped) were bumbling idiots with no actual capability of carrying out their plans.

Granted that may be true but I am not there yet. They don't even go to court until next week. What news outlet is suggesting this if any?

Scrum · 06-02-2007, 06:18 PM

This is just silly.

Everyone knows you can't fight terrorism with law enforcement.

garbagemanlb · 06-02-2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

This is just silly.

Everyone knows you can't fight terrorism with law enforcement.

Seriously. That is so 'Pre-9/11' thinking. We need to invade someone!

Roonie · 06-02-2007, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by garbagemanlb

Seriously. That is so 'Pre-9/11' thinking. We need to invade someone!

Fuck the invasion lets just nuke em.........

Nonphixion · 06-03-2007, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Or it does not matter because a War on Terror does not exist?

I'll have you know that is isn't an existential discussion. No one is debating that there exists a War On Terrorism.

I have flown to Trinidad, in Summer of 2005

Diesel66 · 06-03-2007, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Scrum

This is just silly.

Everyone knows you can't fight terrorism with law enforcement.

the issue was fighting terrorism by arresting them AFTER they did the attack. example, the 1993 attack

sad/funny
prosecuter is quoted as saying "the attack could have killed thousands" yet the articles quote an expert who say the explosion wouldnt have done much more then destroy the fuel station.

thatguyoverthere · 06-03-2007, 07:17 AM

We need to attack the country harboring these terrorists!!! You're with us or against us! Oh, wait...

Gee, I thought you guys said that we're fighting them over there so that we don't have to fight them over here! Were you wrong?

Oh, and so it's OKAY to treat terrorism as a law enforcement problem BEFORE the attack? Why are you guys only waiting until now to make this important distinction? Your side ridiculed the idea of treating terrorism as a law enforcement problem for years now, and only NOW you're adding qualifiers to that.

I guess treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue is the reason why the 1993 attackers were tracked down and brought to justice and the 2001 attacker still roams free.

News flash: There are plenty of people on the left side of the asile that support the idea of treating terrorism as a law enforcement problem both before and after an attack.

Let's make this even simpler for y'all. Law enforcement prevented this attack. Law enforcement brought the 1993 attackers to justice. Pre-emptive war did not stop this attack. Pre-emptive war did not bring the 2001 attacker to justice. See how that works?

Good job by the investigators to foil the plot.

thatguyoverthere · 06-03-2007, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Or it does not matter because a War on Terror does not exist?

Does the war on terror exist? What are the victory conditions? Can you win a war on a tactic?

Why would you support a war with no defined conditions for victory?

I know your side loves war, but I think that at least you'd love wars that could, y'know,... actually be won.

I don't like war. I think war should be the last resort. BUT... when my side gets into a war, I want my side to WIN and win DECISIVELY.

Why are you war supporters okay with our side getting into a war that your side can't even define what victory might look like? Why are you guys okay with perpetual war?

In one century, involvement with 2 world wars turned Britain from the greatest superpower the world has ever seen into a shell of its former self. Trying to keep up the arms race and occupy Afganistan helped the Soviet Union crumble. That big Russian bear didn't go out with a single shot fired, it slowly bled to death.

Don't you think there's a lesson in that?

Thorgrim · 06-03-2007, 11:43 AM

I think we need a bigger surge in Iraq, obviously the Iraqi boat people are making it from the Persian Gulf to American shores to carry out these terrorist attacks that come extremely close to working

garbagemanlb · 06-03-2007, 12:13 PM

On Fox News this morning they had some nutjob who was saying the four involved in this plot were simply proxies by Iran.

The sad thing is they said his book was the number one selling book this week.

garbagemanlb · 06-03-2007, 12:17 PM

Mike Evans was the guy. A true nutcase.

RMNIXON · 06-03-2007, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

I'll have you know that is isn't an existential discussion. No one is debating that there exists a War On Terrorism.

I have flown to Trinidad, in Summer of 2005

John Edwards?

RMNIXON · 06-03-2007, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

This is just silly.

Everyone knows you can't fight terrorism with law enforcement.

Forget about Law Enforcement! Here is the part of Edwards speech at the CFR that the press did not bother to quote:

"Any new strategy must include new preventive measures to win the long-term struggle and fuel hope and opportunity. This includes strong and creative diplomacy, and also new efforts to lead the fight against global poverty. I've proposed a plan to lead an international effort to educate every child in the world. As president, I would increase foreign assistance by $5 billion a year to make millions of people safer, healthier, and more democratic, and by creating a cabinet-level post to lead this effort."

See?

We can make them like us better with a New Global Welfare State on Terror! Like this has been working since when? And does Edwards undertsand that our ideas about "Education" are a direct threat to the very fanatics who want us dead? Now if he just wants to give various corrupt political states money and let them continue with the same self-destructive behavior we see at present they would go for that! But we certainly don't want to do anything selfish like tie that money to behavior do we? That would be aggressive!