Immigrant Takes Refuge in Chicago Church

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Kytro

The law has to be enforced by courts part of the system, but there are ways to spped it up, epsically if congress creates an immigration court

a special immigration court sounds reasonable, but i don't think it should be as nice as the courts you and i enjoy. perhaps one that gives them a one-time chance to prove their citizenship them *BAM* they're gone.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

No. This is very very simple.

"Can I see your documentation that you are a legal citizen?"

"No Tengo papels."

"OK, hop on this bus, and we'll get you back to Mexico."



There is no immigration hearing needed for a person entering this country illegally. They get sent back if they aren't citizens. Why is there a hearing needed? Because they want to stay? Well that's too fucking bad, they broke the law, they need to go back.

And I am ALLLLLL for more holding facilities to send them back. Although, I don't believe it should take weeks or months. Check their Identity, and if they aren't citizens, then home they go.

I swear, I discipline my son more than we do illegal immigrants.

brilliant idea, but try to put it in practice.

Think about it this way, what do you have to prove you are a citizen?

A driver's license - no good, noncitizens can get driver's licenses in every state.
A social security card? No good, not an ID
Passport - I doubt you carry your passport daily

BTW, there are quite a few ways to be legally present in this country without citizenship. Many of these do not include a piece of paper that says "I'm here legally!"

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Phantom

brilliant idea, but try to put it in practice.

Think about it this way, what do you have to prove you are a citizen?

A driver's license - no good, noncitizens can get driver's licenses in every state.
A social security card? No good, not an ID
Passport - I doubt you carry your passport daily

BTW, there are quite a few ways to be legally present in this country without citizenship. Many of these do not include a piece of paper that says "I'm here legally!"

Start fingerprinting every person that comes into this country legally that is not a citizen. When someone doesn't have anything on them that proves they are here legally check their prints. This is a long term solution but why not start now.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Phantom

brilliant idea, but try to put it in practice.

Think about it this way, what do you have to prove you are a citizen?

A driver's license - no good, noncitizens can get driver's licenses in every state.
A social security card? No good, not an ID
Passport - I doubt you carry your passport daily

BTW, there are quite a few ways to be legally present in this country without citizenship. Many of these do not include a piece of paper that says "I'm here legally!"

why not two out of the three?

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Start fingerprinting every person that comes into this country legally that is not a citizen. When someone doesn't have anything on them that proves they are here legally check their prints. This is a long term solution but why not start now.

they are getting there, and I think this is a great start

[IminWonderland]

I don't care how they prove it.

Let's face it, the government keeps track of ALL OF US. We are all in the system. If they wanted to look it up, they could see where I lived as a kid, when my shots were, and who I made out with in the baseball dugouts in High School.

I don't buy that they just can't VERIFY if someone is a citizen.

They just don't want to, and don't want to put the resources into making it so the border patrol can find this crap out.

[motivez]

No papers, no care IMO

I see no reason to waste time, money, and resources on sending people back by allowing them a hearing.. if they say "I can prove I'm a citizen" to someone in the detention facility, then sure, give them a chance.

If not, hasta la vista, baby.

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

a special immigration court sounds reasonable, but i don't think it should be as nice as the courts you and i enjoy. perhaps one that gives them a one-time chance to prove their citizenship them *BAM* they're gone.

I wasn't talking about nice or not nice - more about a system designed to handle volume, and easily review evidence.

Detention facilities could be designed to be temporary, and actions agasint illegals could be helpd of untill procesing the last lot is completed.

There are other serious issues to be looked at in this situation other than "getting rid of illegals", however the current loophole sneed to be closed before valid paths can be opened

[motivez]

Any updates on this? I haven't been able to find anything out about it

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by motivez

Any updates on this? I haven't been able to find anything out about it

Check the pews on the left, row 7.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

Check the pews on the left, row 7.