Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo Because not everyone can be upper management. But everyone has the chance of upper management. Their salary and position/raises are based on their job performance and reviews. In the end their hard work has the ability to increase their livelihood/job security. Whereas with teachers it simply ...
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| But everyone has the chance of upper management. Their salary and position/raises are based on their job performance and reviews. In the end their hard work has the ability to increase their livelihood/job security. Whereas with teachers it simply doesn't matter.
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| Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo Most people don't stay with their company for their entire career. That day and age has long been forgotten. People usually work somewhere for a while and then change jobs and with that change move up the corporate ladder. They take a similar job with a little more responsibilities, etc and keep moving on. Once again, teachers can't do that. There is no room for advancement and there is no job reviews. Their employment/pay is not based on anything to do with their job performance or ability. And it never will be for the duration of their careers. They will always have mediocre pay with absolutely no chance to improve themselves through hard work.
People who go into business typically have a capitalistic mentality towards life. Completely different way of viewing the world. | ||||
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| They do have more leeway, i agree. However just because they have that leeway does not mean they will exercise it. They will only pay what they have to... just as the public school system. If they need to pay more, they would. People keep applying to be teachers so the entry level wages for that job are going to stay the same. | ||||
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| I also think part of the issue with teacher pay is that it is just commonly accepted that the pay is shitty. So those who want to be teachers just deal with it as something that can't be changed. | ||||
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| They know its crappy pay going in to it also. So its like, why did you just spend 4 years in school with that goal (as many of them do) only to get there and then act amazed when the paycheck sucks. I think they get there, realize "wow this is really crappy pay after all" and then some change their tune. Others just bitch and moan. If people stopped going to college for education degrees and such, school boards would have no choice but to pay better. Though it is basically government employment, the market still influences the wages they get paid. People can always quit or choose to not teach. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by JaJae There are lots of conservatives in low-pay/strong union situations that are Republican
Just yesterday someone in the police union seriously suggested to me he thought we should execute any juvenille who is convicted of more than 1 offense, as they are a lost cause by then and will only plague philadelphia...he was dead serious and I just went "ok" and went to get a sprite | ||||
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| More importantly, why don't more teachers spend their time teaching the subjects they're paid to teach, instead of trying to indoctrinate students with their personal politics? | ||||
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| Here's a link to a good anecdotal story that 100% stays on this threads topic. Why don't more conservatives become teachers? | ||||
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| well, also, think about the fact that to become a teacher, beyond the schooling you now have to get all these stupid special certifications. who the fuck is going to waste more time getting these certifications when they have the knowledge to teach the classes. kids would be much more into real world knowledge and experiences rather than some guy who has just gone to school and taught his whole life | ||||
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