Originally Posted by Scrum They moved to another zip code and are back at pre-9/11 strength. We have spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Where exactly is the benefit? Not only that but they have franchised their terrorism. The Al Qaeda's in Iraq are a franchise as well ...
07-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT!  Independent MN 
| Originally Posted by Scrum 
Not only that but they have franchised their terrorism. The Al Qaeda's in Iraq are a franchise as well as the folks in the US. I would like a double Al Qaeda hold the mayo, with a side of terrorism to go please. | ||||
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07-13-2007, 03:17 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by Roonie thank you, please drive through.
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07-13-2007, 04:59 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Scrum
Next time we let them stay where they are at full strength and beg them to stop! How about that? 
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07-13-2007, 05:07 PM
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| Mission Accomplished NOT! Independent MN
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON Well we pretty much have. Limited forces in Afghanastan where supposedly Osama Bin Laden is located. Remember him, the actual guy responsible for 9/11.
Instead we have the majority of forces, time, lost lives, and money in Iraq where they never where or are. Makes perfect sense to me......... NOT! Last edited by Roonie; 07-13-2007 at 10:44 PM. | ||||
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07-13-2007, 05:09 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by David Octavius
Lets see if we can do exactly what Al-Qaeda wants us to do? Associated Press Thursday, July 12, 2007 (Cairo) "A newly-released video tape message, purportedly from al-Qaida's number two man-deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri, on Wednesday called for Pakistanis to join the jihad or holy war, in revenge for the attack by Pakistan's army on Red Mosque in Islamabad." Maybe we can go Hawk in the wrong place at the wrong time and help depose a friendly government with nuclear weapons and have a real party on our hands?  I await your Dem candidates tough on Pakistan policy statements...... Still waiting............ | ||||
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07-13-2007, 05:14 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by mididoctors
Thanks for being honest! Others need to make up their minds....... I thought the War on Terror was a bumper sticker? Made up by Neocons to take away your liberties and scare you into voting for them? So how can you be "less" safe now? How can you trust without question the NIE from the same people who were so wrong on WMD? Explain yourself!  | ||||
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07-13-2007, 05:23 PM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool  Independent ny
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON I don't have any Dem candidates
 I think all of them suck, we have no real leaders, the republicans have nothing but bad ideas and the dems dont have any at all
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07-13-2007, 05:26 PM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool Independent ny
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON Umm people don't know these stats, they know only what the government tells them, like Iraq was part of Sept 11th. And remember the almost daily color coded updates about a possible terror strikes that had no definite time or place? That seemed to put some good ole fear in people and let our leaders do anything they wanted without question
So yea a great argument can be made that the war on terror is but a bumper sticker for more government power | ||||
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07-13-2007, 06:43 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Donkey® what would you rather have done?
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07-13-2007, 07:36 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON So the only options are to do exactly what we have been doing or do nothing at all?
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07-13-2007, 07:37 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Capture/kill Osama bin Laden and his followers.
Starting a war of choice in the ME that has helped AQ's numbers grow seems like a bad decision as well. | ||||
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07-14-2007, 10:15 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Scrum so you would have invaded Pakistan?
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07-14-2007, 11:07 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor If they harbor bin Laden and refuse to get him themselves, yes.
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07-14-2007, 03:46 PM
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| Banned  Socialist Maryland
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
1: Strengthen our INTERNAL infrastructure, security and our borders. 2: Advise Saudi Arabia to destroy ALL terror elements in their country or prepare to have us do it for them. 3: Advise and supply the means for Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Iran or Iraq to invade Afghanistan and Pakistan. 4: Let Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt work together to solve the security on THEIR side of the world. That's all I can think of at the moment. | ||||
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07-14-2007, 03:58 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by David Octavius
You defend the independent label well!  | ||||
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07-14-2007, 04:00 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Scrum
You do have a party running for President. I know some want to take the microphone away from the "Little" guys with options, but all can speak at the moment............................  | ||||
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07-15-2007, 04:11 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Scrum I agree completely, fuck pakistan.
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07-15-2007, 04:14 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Donkey® number 1, I don't think we can ever live in a terroist free country unless we live in a police state, and I don't think your or me wants to do that.
number 2, i agree completly, this the United States of fucking America if you get in our way either stand back or get knocked over. 3. I am not against invading Pakistan if OBL is there, if he is there we need to get him and kill him. 4. they won't. It is our best interest if we help them  | ||||
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07-15-2007, 10:24 AM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
We have pretty attack free (on US soil) for 200 years. I think all we can do is enhance that record with an ATTEMPT at fixing our internal security. Originally Posted by kinggovernor Saudi Arabia is supposed to be some kind of super power over there. Why don't they show it? They seem more concerned with shopping malls and Lamborghinis than actually funding a military capable of keeping the peace over there. Again, MOST of the terrorists were Saudi Citizens...they should at least come out and say "OMG, our bad" and do something about it.
Originally Posted by kinggovernor I am against US invading ANYONE over there when there are PLENTY of others capable of doing it. I don't want to build countries. I don't want to turn everything to glass. I just want the neighborhood watch to make themselves useful. Only way to help us is if these people help themselves.
Originally Posted by kinggovernor I do not MIND helping them. I mind the military bases we have over there. I mind the WASTED "help" we're giving Iraq right now. Besides, you asked me what I would do. That's why I would do.
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