Hindu Priest gives opening prayer in Senate, classless jesusfreaks show intolerance - Page 2

Scrum · 07-12-2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I do not question their right to say it.

But, I do not think those values are what is RIGHT with this country.

And our overall snubby, self rightous, imposing on other nations through out the past 50 years, and acting like we are the only path to living as a society is what got us to this point. This country has put too much stock in thinking not only were we right, but we were better than every where else, we were the asshole who showed up to work everyday saying "I'm the greatest Fucker here!". That attitude has now fucked us over.

Those people, have that attitude.

thomez · 07-13-2007, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

But for some people that doesn't go both ways

Dissent and protesting on the floor of the US Senate during a prayer are really not equal terms.

northhunter · 07-13-2007, 08:39 AM

I think rather than being an example of intolerance this stroy shows just the opposite. Ok, so a few in the gallery made fools of themselves. Compare that to the rest of those being respectfull, at least a couple hundred of people.
Why not focus on the positive instead of the three small minded people who do NOT represent the majority present? I know it makes for better headline but once they were removed the prayer continued right?

SoFlaJDM · 07-13-2007, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by northhunter

I think rather than being an example of intolerance this stroy shows just the opposite. Ok, so a few in the gallery made fools of themselves. Compare that to the rest of those being respectfull, at least a couple hundred of people.
Why not focus on the positive instead of the three small minded people who do NOT represent the majority present? I know it makes for better headline but once they were removed the prayer continued right?

it wouldn't really be in the news then, would it?

Linzyhop · 07-13-2007, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

By the way.

The thread title does not exactly invite a notion of tolerance....

i think the title just about sums it up

Linzyhop · 07-13-2007, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by northhunter

I think rather than being an example of intolerance this stroy shows just the opposite. Ok, so a few in the gallery made fools of themselves. Compare that to the rest of those being respectfull, at least a couple hundred of people.
Why not focus on the positive instead of the three small minded people who do NOT represent the majority present? I know it makes for better headline but once they were removed the prayer continued right?

because in the SENATE you're supposed to have respect for everyone. they people had none. they disrespected their own religion by associating their very unchristian-like actions with christianity. and Hindu? seriously? what a peaceful religion to attack as wicked.

get a clue.

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I do not question their right to say it.

But, I do not think those values are what is RIGHT with this country.

And our overall snubby, self rightous, imposing on other nations through out the past 50 years, and acting like we are the only path to living as a society is what got us to this point. This country has put too much stock in thinking not only were we right, but we were better than every where else, we were the asshole who showed up to work everyday saying "I'm the greatest Fucker here!". That attitude has now fucked us over.

Those people, have that attitude.

Ok, you hate us and we need to be more like..... Austria? Luxembourg?

How three assholes in a peanut gallery can be proof to you how much the US sucks means you aren't thinking very clearly.

DosEquis · 07-13-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

ok, someone did it over 200 years ago... i guess it's ok with me

We are going to hang some witches this weekend. That, or we thought about getting some concrete blocks to attach to them and see if they can swim... just for shits and giggles. You comin?

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

We are going to hang some witches this weekend. That, or we thought about getting some concrete blocks to attach to them and see if they can swim... just for shits and giggles. You comin?

Yeah, saying a prayer is comparable to murdering people.

The tolerance in this thread is amazing

Publius · 07-13-2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Yeah, saying a prayer is comparable to murdering people.

The tolerance in this thread is amazing

Being tolerant of intolerance isn't a virtue.

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Publius

Being tolerant of intolerance isn't a virtue.

Comparing people who pray to murderers??? Ok...

I would say we are the most tolerant country in the world BECAUSE it was built on Christianity. The founding fathers knew what it was like to be persecuted because of religious intolerance and made sure it didn't happen here. Hence the whole "melting pot" that is the United States.

Mmm...mmmm. The Christian haters are going to love this post....

Linzyhop · 07-13-2007, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Comparing people who pray to murderers??? Ok...

I would say we are the most tolerant country in the world BECAUSE it was built on Christianity. The founding fathers knew what it was like to be persecuted because of religious intolerance and made sure it didn't happen here. Hence the whole "melting pot" that is the United States.

Mmm...mmmm. The Christian haters are going to love this post....

wait. you're saying this country IS more tolerant of other religions besides christianity than any other country???

um....

Publius · 07-13-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Comparing people who pray to murderers??? Ok...

Yea, that's just idiotic imo. I wasn't referring specifically to his post.

I would say we are the most tolerant country in the world BECAUSE it was built on Christianity. The founding fathers knew what it was like to be persecuted because of religious intolerance and made sure it didn't happen here. Hence the whole "melting pot" that is the United States.

Mmm...mmmm. The Christian haters are going to love this post....

Actually I would say it is because our nation was built on the enlightenment ideals, not Christianity. The history of Christianity is not a history of tolerance (the shunning of the gnostics, the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc.). And I really question your premise anyway, because this nation is pretty intolerant of non-Christian viewpoints (as a people, if not as a government).

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

wait. you're saying this country IS more tolerant of other religions besides christianity than any other country???

um....

I would say we were the first to accept all religions freely and without limit and we are probably one of the most tolerant nations on earth. You disagree?

Linzyhop · 07-13-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I would say we were the first to accept all religions freely and without limit and we are probably one of the most tolerant nations on earth. You disagree?

um. yeah i do. have you lived in other countries? I would say Spain is way more tolerant of non christian religions than the US.

we might have been one of the first, but generalizing, we definitely have taken a step backwards in "tolerance" in the last few years.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 07-13-2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

we are probably one of the most tolerant nations on earth. You disagree?

Except when it comes to people with no religion at all, then Americans really get their panties in a bunch...at least in the red states.

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

um. yeah i do. have you lived in other countries? I would say Spain is way more tolerant of non christian religions than the US.

we might have been one of the first, but generalizing, we definitely have taken a step backwards in "tolerance" in the last few years.

Germany. Not very tolerant.

How have we taken a step backwards?

Stylerod · 07-13-2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Except when it comes to people with no religion at all, then Americans really get their panties in a bunch...at least in the red states.

You are wrong. I disagree completely. How many threads to you see being made here or at OT by religious people bashing atheists? About none? How many threads to you see by atheists bashing people who believe in a god? 20 a day on OT at least.

Publius · 07-13-2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Germany. Not very tolerant.

How have we taken a step backwards?

Have you seen the movie Jesus Camp? Bush's outward endorsing of evangelicalism has been seen by evangelicals as a rallying cry to try to impose their will upon the nation...

You need only look at the explosion in anti-homosexual legislation in the last 5 or 6 years to see it... Yea, there was some anti-homosexual legislation prior to the Bush administration, but it has grown enormously since he took office.