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Old 07-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #1
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Hindu Priest gives opening prayer in Senate, classless jesusfreaks show intolerance

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I'm absolutely disgusted by this sadly though, it doesn't surprise me at all... anyone know who the pieces of shit were?
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:06 PM   #2
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Wow it was very rude, especially by calling him "wicked"
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:30 PM   #3
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Anyone who disrupts the Senate should forcibly removed from the gallery.


They were arrested as they should be. That is not a Public Free Speech platform. Have some respect!





Updated: 10:45 a.m. PT July 12, 2007


WASHINGTON - A Hindu clergyman made history Thursday by offering the Senate's morning prayer, but only after police officers removed three shouting protesters from the visitors' gallery.

Rajan Zed, director of interfaith relations at a Hindu temple in Reno, Nev., gave the brief prayer that opens each day's Senate session. As he stood at the chamber's podium in a bright orange and burgundy robe, two women and a man began shouting "this is an abomination" and other complaints from the gallery.

Police officers quickly arrested them and charged them disrupting Congress, a misdemeanor. The male protester told an AP reporter, "we are Christians and patriots" before police handcuffed them and led them away.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:32 PM   #4
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By the way.


The thread title does not exactly invite a notion of tolerance....
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:34 PM   #5
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Why the hell is there any prayer going on in a Senate session?
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:45 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Why the hell is there any prayer going on in a Senate session?


Ask Thomas Jefferson because he never had a problem with it.



Woman Preacher in the House
In 1827, Harriet Livermore (1788-1868), the daughter and granddaughter of Congressmen, became the second woman to preach in the House of Representatives. The first woman to preach before the House (and probably the first woman to speak officially in Congress under any circumstances) was the English evangelist, Dorothy Ripley (1767-1832), who conducted a service on January 12, 1806. Jefferson and Vice President Aaron Burr were among those in a "crowded audience." Sizing up the congregation, Ripley concluded that "very few" had been born again and broke into an urgent, camp meeting style exhortation, insisting that "Christ's Body was the Bread of Life and His Blood the drink of the righteous."


Religion and the Federal Government: PART 2 (Religion and the Founding of the American Republic, Library of Congress Exhibition)


That should get the blood boiling!

 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:45 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Why the hell is there any prayer going on in a Senate session?
i agree, there shouldn't ever be any, but as it stands right now, they should be giving everyone a turn... these are Americans after all
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:49 PM   #8
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It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.)


 
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ok, someone did it over 200 years ago... i guess it's ok with me
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:51 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
ok, someone did it over 200 years ago... i guess it's ok with me
 
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Ok before this thread descends into "this nation was founded as a Christian nation", most of our founders including Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine (yes he is a founder and a very important one too) and Ben Franklyn were all Deitists not Christians, the Christian Fundamentalists today would look at them as wicked as much as they do the Hindu Priest that did the Prayer.
 
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Those people are what is wrong with America today.
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:47 PM   #13
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I don't see how the religious leanings of the founders are relevant to modern day practices.
 
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:47 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post

I'm absolutely disgusted by this sadly though, it doesn't surprise me at all... anyone know who the pieces of shit were?
Ante Nedlko Pavkovic, Katherine Lynn Pavkovic and Christan Renee Sugar
 
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:04 AM   #15
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That was very disrespectful.


But I started when the Hindu started to pray, such a stereotypical accent.
 
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:06 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Ok before this thread descends into "this nation was founded as a Christian nation", most of our founders including Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine (yes he is a founder and a very important one too) and Ben Franklyn were all Deitists not Christians, the Christian Fundamentalists today would look at them as wicked as much as they do the Hindu Priest that did the Prayer.


Jefferson was more like a "Christian Deist." And no, those are not two exclusive terms.


And while Franklin and Madison may have been Deists, the vast majority of founding fathers were Christians.


Which all of that doesn't mean that much anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by IminWonderland View Post
Those people are what is wrong with America today.
Those people need their asses beaten. But there is a whole lot more wrong with America then protesters. Hell, I keep hearing people say Protesting is a good thing. In another thread someone said:

Dissent is healthy, it shows there is still a reasonable degree of freedom.
But for some people that doesn't go both ways
 
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:23 AM   #18
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Dissent is important, that does not mean it should be taken seriously all the time
 
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Those people need their asses beaten. But there is a whole lot more wrong with America then protesters. Hell, I keep hearing people say Protesting is a good thing. In another thread someone said:



But for some people that doesn't go both ways
I do not question their right to say it.

But, I do not think those values are what is RIGHT with this country.

And our overall snubby, self rightous, imposing on other nations through out the past 50 years, and acting like we are the only path to living as a society is what got us to this point. This country has put too much stock in thinking not only were we right, but we were better than every where else, we were the asshole who showed up to work everyday saying "I'm the greatest Fucker here!". That attitude has now fucked us over.

Those people, have that attitude.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
Why the hell is there any prayer going on in a Senate session?
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