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Old 07-14-2007, 04:30 PM   #1
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hey ron paul ppls, how do you answer this?

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll618.xml

He answered present? one of only 2 to do so, everyone voted for it except these two guys who voted present



RESOLUTION
Condemning the decision by the University and College Union of the United Kingdom to support a boycott of Israeli academia.

Whereas on May 30, 2007, the University and College Union of the United Kingdom voted in favor of a motion to boycott Israeli faculty and academic institutions;

Whereas the UCU was created in 2006 out of a merger of the Association of University Teachers (AUT) and the National Association of Teachers in Further and Higher Education (NATFHE). Both AUT (in 2005) and NATFHE (in 2006) have passed resolutions supporting a boycott of Israeli academics and academic institutions;

Whereas Britain's National Union of Journalists called for a boycott of Israeli goods in April 2007;

Whereas these unions have a hypocritical double standard in condemning Israel, a free and democratic state, while completely ignoring gross human rights abuses occurring around the world in nations such as Sudan, Zimbabwe, Iran, and Venezuela;

Whereas a totally unjustified campaign is underway by elements of the international academic community to limit cultural and scientific collaboration between foreign universities and academics and their counterparts in Israel;

Whereas Article 19, section 2, of the United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights states that, `Everyone shall have the right to . . . receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice';

Whereas these and any other attempts to stifle intellectual freedom through the imposition of an academic boycott are counterproductive since research and academic exchange provide an essential bridge between otherwise disconnected cultures and countries;

Whereas such boycotts represent a dangerous assault on the principles of academic freedom and open exchange;

Whereas the UCU boycott motion appears to have spawned similar movements in Britain to boycott Israel economically and culturally, as the country's largest labor union, UNISON, said it would follow the union of university instructors in weighing punitive measures against Israel;

Whereas Nobel laureate Prof. Steven Weinberg, who refused to participate in a British academic conference due to the National Union of Journalist's boycott, stated that he perceived `a widespread anti-Israel and anti-Semitic current in British opinion'; and

Whereas the senseless boycotting of Israeli academics contributes to the delegitimization and demonization of the State of Israel: Now, therefore, be it


Resolved, That the House of Representatives--

(1) condemns the vote by the University and College Union of May 30, 2007, to boycott Israeli academics and academic institutions;

(2) urges the international scholarly community, the European Union, and individual governments, to reject, or continue to reject, calls for an academic boycott of Israel and reaffirm their commitment to academic freedom and cultural and scientific international exchange;

(3) urges governments and educators throughout the world to reaffirm the importance of academic freedom and open dialogue and to condemn measures that would prevent the production, sharing, and exchange of knowledge;

(4) urges other unions and organizations to reject the troubling and disturbing actions of the UCU; and

(5) urges the general members of the UCU to reject the call of the union's leadership to boycott Israel.
 
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:28 PM   #2
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He's a man of principle above morals. It might have been the nice thing to do. But he probably felt it wasn't the way our Senate should have been spending its time with a war going on and problems on our own soil and all.
 
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:41 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
He's a man of principle above morals. It might have been the nice thing to do. But he probably felt it wasn't the way our Senate should have been spending its time with a war going on and problems on our own soil and all.
I don't think I need to find links for proof, but he's done all the stupid "name this mailbox after local town good guy" crap...he doesn't answer "present" to those, even in our current situation

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found a link nevermind

so the basic point stands
 
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:23 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I don't think I need to find links for proof, but he's done all the stupid "name this mailbox after local town good guy" crap...he doesn't answer "present" to those, even in our current situation

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
found a link nevermind

so the basic point stands
Nope not really. He's okay with doing things like that on a local level. He votes in favor of those kinds of things within his district. He's right in his decision on this one. It's a waste of the Senate's time, and it has nothing to do with the United States.



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I'm on his ignore list, so someone else can quote me if they want.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:46 PM   #5
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Ok

this was Florida, not his district, and it's the house remember

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll401.xml

it keeps going to more and more mundane votes:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll304.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll270.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll247.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll245.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll343.xml
Here is something we really need the House doing with its time:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll226.xml
more honoring:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll218.xml


I think I've made my point
 
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:00 PM   #6
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Then I have no idea.
 
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