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Old 07-16-2007, 10:14 PM   #1
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Do you guys generally have respects for Presidents

I do have respect for Bill Clinton, I did not agree with what he did but whatever happened to respect for the office?
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:53 PM   #2
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I do respect the office but sometimes those who occupy it lose my respect as individuals.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:58 PM   #3
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Everyone has a different idea of what respect for the office means.

If I saw George Bush, I'd be extremely polite to him out of respect that he's the president, despite the fact I think he's a moronic douche. On the other hand, some people probably think respect for office means you're not supposed to talk ill of him in any circumstance.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:03 PM   #4
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I don't respect positions, I respect people, based on their words and actions.

Respect has to be earned, IMO
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:09 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
I do respect the office but sometimes those who occupy it lose my respect as individuals.
IMO Clinton lied to his way to complete a second term, but I still respect it. Maybe because I have so much respect for America
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:11 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
Everyone has a different idea of what respect for the office means.

If I saw George Bush, I'd be extremely polite to him out of respect that he's the president, despite the fact I think he's a moronic douche. On the other hand, some people probably think respect for office means you're not supposed to talk ill of him in any circumstance.
no I agree with your idea of respect, I guess I have a problem with those that want to physically cause problems with the President. IMO no matter his poltical leanings they deserve our respect
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:11 PM   #7
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I have lost all respect for that office...the public that elected the moron in that office...and everyone here.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:12 PM   #8
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I have lost all respect for that office...the public that elected the moron in that office...and everyone here.
:ughword:

honestly would you have respect for it if a democrat was elected?
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:13 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
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honestly would you have respect for it if a democrat was elected?



Nope.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:15 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
IMO Clinton lied to his way to complete a second term, but I still respect it. Maybe because I have so much respect for America
I respect the office and I would still be respectful to Bush in person, in fact I agree with him on certain issues, etc... but I don't respect a lot of the decisions he has made nor the way he has used the office of President.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:16 PM   #11
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Nope.
oh ok.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:18 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
I respect the office and I would still be respectful to Bush in person, in fact I agree with him on certain issues, etc... but I don't respect a lot of the decisions he has made nor the way he has used the office of President.
I guess I see the President as the face for everything that we, as Americans do, and that is why he deserves our respect. So if it was John Kerry or Joe Biden I would still respect him. Even though Bush getting re-elected was probably the reason I got a PH in Iraq
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:34 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
I guess I see the President as the face for everything that we, as Americans do, and that is why he deserves our respect. So if it was John Kerry or Joe Biden I would still respect him. Even though Bush getting re-elected was probably the reason I got a PH in Iraq



Let's say your platoon leader took you into battle and fucked it up so bad, half your platoon ended up shooting the other half. In spite of all the radio calls and pleas to stop, he still did what he did because it was what he wanted to do and he thought it was right. He's above you and the rank demands respect. Would you still respect him?
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:36 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Let's say your platoon leader took you into battle and fucked it up so bad, half your platoon ended up shooting the other half. In spite of all the radio calls and pleas to stop, he still did what he did because it was what he wanted to do and he thought it was right. He's above you and the rank demands respect. Would you still respect him?
yes. sorry.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:40 PM   #15
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yes. sorry.


Military mentality FTL.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:43 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Military mentality FTL.
that is your opinion, how dare you judge me. in fact I should report your post
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:45 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
that is your opinion, how dare you judge me. in fact I should report your post


Go ahead. It's just plain fact that you have to respect him because he is commander in chief.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:09 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
I guess I see the President as the face for everything that we, as Americans do, and that is why he deserves our respect. So if it was John Kerry or Joe Biden I would still respect him. Even though Bush getting re-elected was probably the reason I got a PH in Iraq
I would say that is part of patriotism, and hence why I disagree with you. I don't support nationalism or the idea of nations being great as such.

There is nothing special about the people in one nation more than any other, though I do agree with some ideas more than others.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:42 AM   #19
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Respect should go with the person not the office. Why should someone automatically get respect because of a title? Its dangerous to our country that a person, who is just as fallible as any other human, gets the kind of respect that allows him to make important decisions that affect us all with question.


Ultimately that is what respect is about, that we trust the person (or the office) to do the things that have a great impact. Well the way our republic is set up, it is not supposed to work that way, the President gets respected inasmuch as he/she respects the congress and vice-versa - our checks and balances, whatever happened to our respect for that?
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:52 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
I have lost all respect for that office...the public that elected the moron in that office...and everyone here.
including yourself.
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