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Old 07-17-2007, 12:00 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
That chart scares me...it looks like it's going parabolic.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:03 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Not only that, but it looks like one of the very few slumps was under his watch from 1981-1982
Ummm if you read the data you'll see there were numerous slumps in the data set. Just copy the numbers to an excel spreadsheet and graph it if you dont believe me.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:04 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
Ummm if you read the data you'll see there were numerous slumps in the data set. Just copy the numbers to an excel spreadsheet and graph it if you dont believe me.
a slump is a slump
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:11 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
a slump is a slump
Yeah I agree
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:23 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
4 trillion in debt? guess again
We started with about 1 trillion and when he left there was 4.5. After GHWB there was 5.5. After 8 years of clinton it was to 6.5. Now it is 8.8 trillion and counting with GWB.

I am rounding some what also. Either way dude ran up debt with wreckless military spending.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:24 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
We started with about 1 trillion and when he left there was 4.5. After GHWB there was 5.5. After 8 years of clinton it was to 6.5. Now it is 8.8 trillion and counting with GWB.

I am rounding some what also. Either way dude ran up debt with wreckless military spending.
When he left there was 2.8T not 4.5
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:25 PM   #27
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Funny, how its the democrat (Clinton) who has to come in and clean up the mess
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:28 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Funny, how its the democrat (Clinton) who has to come in and clean up the mess
His admin did a good job with the debt and worked well with hte republican congress on this issue.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:35 PM   #29
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Oh, i was referring to numbers that were adjusted for inflation.


On February 5, 1981, two weeks after taking office, in his "Address to the Nation on the Economy,"
Reagan said:

"By 1960 our national debt stood at $284 billion. ... Today the debt is $934 billion. ... We can leave our children with an unrepayable massive debt and a shattered economy."


 
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:38 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Oh, i was referring to numbers that were adjusted for inflation.


On February 5, 1981, two weeks after taking office, in his "Address to the Nation on the Economy,"
Reagan said:

"By 1960 our national debt stood at $284 billion. ... Today the debt is $934 billion. ... We can leave our children with an unrepayable massive debt and a shattered economy."


Reagan took office with 900B in debt, left with 2.7T in debt, Bush 41 left with 4.0T in debt, Clinton left with 5.64T in debt and it looks like Bush will leave with somewhere between 9.6 and 10.0T.

Edit: Just checked the numbers looks more like it will be between 9.3 and 9.6.

Edit2: Dos those numbers you have are just wrong they're not adjusted for inflation they're just flat wrong. Not sure where you got them.

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Old 07-17-2007, 06:46 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
he tripled the national debt in 8 years

pretty impressive


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Old 07-17-2007, 06:49 PM   #32
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Reagan was a promising dude until he actually became President.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:50 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
We started with about 1 trillion and when he left there was 4.5. After GHWB there was 5.5. After 8 years of clinton it was to 6.5. Now it is 8.8 trillion and counting with GWB.

I am rounding some what also. Either way dude ran up debt with wreckless military spending.


Like there was not massive wasteful entitlement spending in the 80's? Baseline budget trickery by the congress?
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:22 PM   #34
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Since inflation was brought up earlier, I've adjusted the debt levels and GDP to year 2000 dollars. I will do this at the end of each presidential term. I'm getting as close to Jan1 of each year as I can find.

Debt 1981: 1849.65B Nominal 918B
Debt 1989: 3789.67B Nominal 2,700B
Debt 1993: 4913.36B Nominal 4140B
Debt 2001: 5464.22B Nominal 5650B
Debt as of today: 7592.63B Nominal 8890B **Adjusted using 2006 inflation data.

GDP
1981: 5307.50B Nominal 3052.70B
1989: 6918.10B Nominal 5367.10B
1993: 7459.70B Nominal 6542.70B
2001: 10021.50B Nominal 9875.60B
2007: 13620.20B Nominal 11532.80B
 
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