Only McCain&Paul signed up for official GOP youtube/CNN debate

Thorgrim · 07-26-2007, 10:44 PM

But so far, only Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) have agreed to participate in the debate, co-hosted by Republican Party of Florida in St. Petersburg.

"Aside from those two candidates, we haven't heard from anyone else," said Sam Feist of CNN, who's co-sponsoring the debate with the popular videosharing site.

But Don't Ask Him on YouTube... | The Trail | washingtonpost.com

Wow, now the Dem debate was pretty well screened, and some of the top videos (like, should we impeach?) were rejected...and conservatives I hear say MSNBC is more liberal than CNN...not to mention there aren't any candidate saying CNN is too liberal

They are saying "videos of snowman aren't very serious"

ib Someone compares Chris Wallace ambushing Clinton, and Fox News history of being right-wing opinion media...to youtube

banzini · 07-26-2007, 10:56 PM

Heh. Do you think some of these candidates really want to be answering questions from the common populace? Props to McCain for signing on. I'm actually all for no one else signing up. Ron Paul could use the face time.

Linzyhop · 07-27-2007, 09:28 AM

props to Mccain and Paul definitely. i think the two of them are the most progressive republicans and i think it shows a good deal about both of them.

DosEquis · 07-27-2007, 10:23 AM

If it is only those two they will cancel it. Those two wouldn't get the ratings they need to justify it.

lew · 07-27-2007, 10:31 AM

Paul OWNS youtube. I can see why Giuliani, Romney, and the rest of them are too scared to commit yet.

ballz2wallz · 07-30-2007, 12:06 PM

YouTube Video

ballz2wallz · 07-30-2007, 12:07 PM

YouTube Video

Thorgrim · 07-30-2007, 12:13 PM

omg, did you see anyone can just put up any video on this "youtube"

this sounds so radical and communist, we should have the government shut it down

Linzyhop · 07-30-2007, 12:44 PM

i agree with those guys on the videos.... they are wasting a tremendous venue for reaching people. i think they don't realize how big it is and how much they can influence undecided voters.

kudos again to McCain and Paul... at least some are on track.

ballz2wallz · 07-30-2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

omg, did you see anyone can just put up any video on this "youtube"

this sounds so radical and communist, we should have the government shut it down

Seems more like a free-market system to me

ballz2wallz · 07-30-2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

i agree with those guys on the videos.... they are wasting a tremendous venue for reaching people. i think they don't realize how big it is and how much they can influence undecided voters.

kudos again to McCain and Paul... at least some are on track.

JaJae · 07-30-2007, 02:12 PM

YouTube as a whole is fairly liberal. The majority of users are liberal and they put content ratings on a lot of pro-conservative videos to get them pulled. The same as digg. The users constantly bury pro-conservative articles.

The YouTube community + CNN + Republican Debate = disaster for the majority of the Republicans who refused to go on the debate. It does however make them hypocrites for criticizing the Democrats for not going on Fox.

Linzyhop · 07-30-2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

YouTube as a whole is fairly liberal. The majority of users are liberal and they put content ratings on a lot of pro-conservative videos to get them pulled. The same as digg. The users constantly bury pro-conservative articles.

The YouTube community + CNN + Republican Debate = disaster for the majority of the Republicans who refused to go on the debate. It does however make them hypocrites for criticizing the Democrats for not going on Fox.

regardless. it's better to go on, then not too. it makes a lot of the younger voters think they have something to hide.

Thorgrim · 07-30-2007, 02:31 PM

to say youtube is liberal is to imply that the internet is liberal is to imply reality is basically liberal

youtube sent in a lot of hard-hitting, ridiculous questions, that did NOT air, and there were some harding, in my opinion, negative-sum questions that DID air...Democrats did NOT look forward to this debate, it was the one they were the most terrified of...and they went anyway

GOP would face the same stuff...liberal trolling questions would be tossed out, but some hard hitting stuff let in

The GOP isn't afraid of the debate, so much as they are afraid they can't go "oh it was the LIBERAL MEDIA after us!"

Like after the MSNBC debate, when Democrats had a round of ugly quetsions, stupid hand raising, etc etc...they took it on the chin

Republicans cried and cried that big bad liberal NBC is out to get them, now if its youtube, they're not going to go "oh well these people are a bunch of liberal freaks!" because they'd be insulting tons of moderates

Linzyhop · 07-30-2007, 02:38 PM

i think you tube is pretty moderate if you are comparing them to other media outlets. as far as the GOP making up excuses, I think it shows a weakness on their behalf.

however comparing the "liberal you tubers" to reality in general... that's a bit of a stretch.

Thorgrim · 07-30-2007, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

i think you tube is pretty moderate if you are comparing them to other media outlets. as far as the GOP making up excuses, I think it shows a weakness on their behalf.

however comparing the "liberal you tubers" to reality in general... that's a bit of a stretch.

yes it would be a stretch if i said that

but im saying, if people are saying "youtube, a free access site where any conservative in the country can submit a question...is inherently liberal because...well i dont know there just don't seem to be many conservatives that will do that" is basically saying reality has a liberal bias OR the conservative base isn't what it's cracked up to be...it seems to hint they maybe mostly comprised of old white lazy men who vote every 2 years and radical evangelicals

SoFlaJDM · 07-30-2007, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

YouTube as a whole is fairly liberal. The majority of users are liberal and they put content ratings on a lot of pro-conservative videos to get them pulled. The same as digg. The users constantly bury pro-conservative articles.

The YouTube community + CNN + Republican Debate = disaster for the majority of the Republicans who refused to go on the debate. It does however make them hypocrites for criticizing the Democrats for not going on Fox.

JaJae · 07-30-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

yes it would be a stretch if i said that

but im saying, if people are saying "youtube, a free access site where any conservative in the country can submit a question...is inherently liberal because...well i dont know there just don't seem to be many conservatives that will do that" is basically saying reality has a liberal bias OR the conservative base isn't what it's cracked up to be...it seems to hint they maybe mostly comprised of old white lazy men who vote every 2 years and radical evangelicals

That's a bit of a stretch

I think the inherent leftist lean of YouTube has to do with the demographics. The majority of users are well under 30, typically college age or younger. We can sit here and play games all day and degenerate each political groups, but I think the Republican candidates know YouTube isn't exactly a nuetral site for them. Most of the videos of them on YouTube are less than flattering.

For example: Rudy - YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Obama - YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

I think it's apparent why Obama would be willing to do a CNN/YouTube debate and someone like Rudy wouldn't...

ballz2wallz · 07-30-2007, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

YouTube as a whole is fairly liberal. The majority of users are liberal and they put content ratings on a lot of pro-conservative videos to get them pulled. The same as digg. The users constantly bury pro-conservative articles.

The YouTube community + CNN + Republican Debate = disaster for the majority of the Republicans who refused to go on the debate. It does however make them hypocrites for criticizing the Democrats for not going on Fox.

As I recall, the Democratic party/liberals have a far higher usage percentage online than do conservatives.

Thorgrim · 07-30-2007, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

As I recall, the Democratic party/liberals have a far higher usage percentage online than do conservatives.

considering conservatives generally are more likely to be rich white males with easy access to a computer, was does that tell you about the true political makeup of this country?