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Old 08-06-2007, 03:21 PM   #41
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If Fox gets under the skin of liberals this much, there must be some truth to it.

The truth hurts, right?
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:34 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
If Fox gets under the skin of liberals this much, there must be some truth to it.

The truth hurts, right?
It's more like there is no other mainstream news outlet that has such blatant propoganda. I find it amusing, yet scary that some people watch it for news.
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:59 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
It's more like there is no other mainstream news outlet that has such blatant propoganda. I find it amusing, yet scary that some people watch it for news.
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:30 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
If Fox gets under the skin of liberals this much, there must be some truth to it.

The truth hurts, right?
So you mean to say the Jews were realizing the truth when the wave of anti-semiticism propaganda that hit europe in the 19th and 20th centuries got under their skin?

The protocols of the elders of zion was true? wow
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:16 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
So you mean to say the Jews were realizing the truth when the wave of anti-semiticism propaganda that hit europe in the 19th and 20th centuries got under their skin?

The protocols of the elders of zion was true? wow
Fox News...Jews...did I miss something?
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:18 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Fox News...Jews...did I miss something?
yeah, go back and re-read your post, and read my response...when it all clicks, hit "reply"
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:19 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
yeah, go back and re-read your post, and read my response...when it all clicks, hit "reply"
They have absolutely nothing to do with each other, and can't even be compared.

It's clicked. You're whack. Hitting reply...
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:51 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
 
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:18 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
If Fox gets under the skin of liberals this much, there must be some truth to it.

The truth hurts, right?
That's a pretty poor argument.

If I were to say to you... "b2w, you're a fucking moron"

if it got under your skin a little bit, does that mean that you are indeed a moron and the truth hurts?

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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
That's a pretty poor argument.

If I were to say to you... "b2w, you're a fucking moron"

if it got under your skin a little bit, does that mean that you are indeed a moron and the truth hurts?

argument validity = F-

 
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:32 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
That's a pretty poor argument.

If I were to say to you... "b2w, you're a fucking moron"

if it got under your skin a little bit, does that mean that you are indeed a moron and the truth hurts?

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If it got under my skin a little, it would most likely be due to an insecurity of mine that I was indeed a bit of a moron. This proves my point exactly.

The fact is, it doesn't bother me at all if someone said that.

Thanks for helping with the argument!
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:41 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
If it got under my skin a little, it would most likely be due to an insecurity of mine that I was indeed a bit of a moron. This proves my point exactly.

The fact is, it doesn't bother me at all if someone said that.

Thanks for helping with the argument!

Or maybe people just get angry when someone misrepresents them in an attempt to discredit and/or smear them in the public eye.
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:31 AM   #53
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Great thread, there needs to be a thread like it every week until the end of time.

I had to laugh when I watched "Fox News Sunday" and they had on the two guys who wrote the NYT editorial, and described them as "war critics!"

(For those in the know, their history of war criticism has been debunked in expert fashion right on this forum

Greenwald: The really smart, serious, credible Iraq experts O'Hanlon and Pollack
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:36 AM   #54
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Liberals need to learn how to change the station.

But hell. If Fox news gets this kind of reaction every day. Enough to have movies made about them. Web sites created to monitor them. Thousands of threads in various web sites talking about them. They must being doing something right!
What they are doing is deliberately trying to eliminate the boundry between political news & entertainment.

This seems mainly to be done by seeking confrontation & conflict

There is an overall bias in demeaning debate into simple neighsaying.

It is clear that they seek to replace intelligent informed debate with trivial name calling, shouting down, shouting over & general deflectionist nonsense, (strawmen etc).

This very thread is an example of what they seek to achieve.

For the question of Fox' bias to be even a minor issue is to trivialise debate & to be generally deflectionist.

As such its just another example of Murdoch seeking to lower inteligence, shorten attention spans, promote idiocy & to narrow the range of issues & information so that he can deliver votes to whomever he wishes to cosy up to.
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:31 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post

Or maybe people just get angry when someone misrepresents them in an attempt to discredit and/or smear them in the public eye.
Most people who are confident in who they are are also confident that who they really are shines through all the smears and slander. There is no need to worry about lies that are spread, because one who is confident knows the lies will fall on deaf ears.

People who have something to hide, something to be ashamed of, or something they are insecure about are the ones that are afraid of that truth being spread. Then do they fight back.
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:28 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Most people who are confident in who they are are also confident that who they really are shines through all the smears and slander. There is no need to worry about lies that are spread, because one who is confident knows the lies will fall on deaf ears.

People who have something to hide, something to be ashamed of, or something they are insecure about are the ones that are afraid of that truth being spread. Then do they fight back.
Werd. Down with slander and defamation laws! They all are just insecure.
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:56 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Werd. Down with slander and defamation laws! They all are just insecure.

"You're mother and your sister are two filthy whores"

"I don't care man, im so confident, I don't care how many times you follow me around and say that, whatever vile things you say about people I care about, it'll never bother me"

 
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:09 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post

"You're mother and your sister are two filthy whores"

"I don't care man, im so confident, I don't care how many times you follow me around and say that, whatever vile things you say about people I care about, it'll never bother me"

Yeah I never understood why people got pissed at saying people calling their moms or sisters names. It makes no sense...
 
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:16 PM   #59
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what about those who get all antsy about what they infer as criticism of the US?

Are they insecure?

Are all claims of concern at media bias soley based upon the beholders insecurity, ..., no matter what example is chosen?

I think you place too great an emphasis on this.

In the example of the Jews & Nazi Germany, ..., its the inequality in power & media access that means that others bias against ones own grouping matters.

Despite all one efforts to be a good example its going to be drowned out by an entire states media.
 
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