They took a submarine to the bottom of the arctic ocean, planted a flag and have claimed it as russian territory. What is this, the 1400's? We can just run around plunking down flags and claiming territory? Is it just me or has Russia gone off the deep end lately. ...
08-02-2007, 10:31 AM
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| Is russia serious? They took a submarine to the bottom of the arctic ocean, planted a flag and have claimed it as russian territory.  What is this, the 1400's? We can just run around plunking down flags and claiming territory? Is it just me or has Russia gone off the deep end lately. They seem to be looking to stir up trouble with the US in an attempt to relive thier glory days Russian sub plants flag under North Pole - Yahoo! News | ||||
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08-02-2007, 11:10 AM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 
Oil and gas. They were just doing that as a symbolic gesture. The real reason they are down there is to prove that area IS actually part of their geologic shelf and therefore, they own it. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 12:07 PM
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| Wouldn't that be great if it was a hammer and sickle flag, and this event officially remarked the rebirth of the Soviet Union? | ||||
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08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® According to international law they don't own it. It's a shared economic zone, whatever that means.
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08-02-2007, 12:21 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
And they are trying to prove the international law is wrong...based on geology. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 12:39 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® Hey look, there is land under the water. It's ours! We should claim the entire atlantic ocean while we are at it. Technically I think Alaska touches the same shelf that the soviets are claiming. I guess it's ours too.
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08-02-2007, 01:15 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
We claim space and the moon as ours...oh, Mars too. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 01:18 PM
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| No flag no country thats the rules... i just made up. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 02:07 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® um .. no we don't.
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08-02-2007, 02:11 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| This always reminded me of a dog marking their territory. Whenever I hear of someone planting a flag to claim land I laugh and picture them peeing. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 02:27 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae Isn't there a comedian who does a bit on this? I think it's eddie izzard but I am not sure.
He talks about the spaniards showing up and planting thier flag and saying, I claim this land for Spain! And the natives are standing around like, WTF we live here!? Spaniard: Well do you have a flag? Native: umm. no..what's a flag? Spaniard: Haha! no flag, it is ours! | ||||
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08-02-2007, 02:35 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
When China shot a satellite down, we went apeshit. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 02:36 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 See my post above
 It is mr. izzard. *english accent "Sir.. the rebels are here." "What do they want? Do they want tea?" "Well I am afraid its a bit more than that sir... they brought a flag" "GAHHH, thats dash cunning of them." Something along those lines. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 02:37 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® That's because we claimed our satellite as ours. If they shot one of our ships down in international water we'd go apeshit too. This doesn't prove we think we own "space" or the moon, etc.
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08-02-2007, 02:42 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® well yeah, but not because we own space. Because they were demonstrating thier ability to knock out our satelites if they so choose.
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08-02-2007, 02:43 PM
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| Originally Posted by DosEquis he's great.
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08-02-2007, 02:59 PM
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
Originally Posted by article
Space is ours. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 03:18 PM
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® that doesn't really imply ownership. He is saying that space is like the wild wild west. We are going to go up in there and run around doing whatever we please. Badges? badges?! we don't need to stinking badges. Oh and don't even think of trying to come up in here and start nuthin, cause we will straight lay out any fool who comes frontin up in da outer space. Ya heard?
We don't own it, we are just sort of saying that it's a no mans land and we are going to be up there, so don't start any trouble. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 Correct.
He's saying "Freedom of action in space" which means everyone is free to put shit up in the sky and they will attempt to deter anyone who has a problem with that. If you're going to claim anyone is attempting to "own" space it would be more likely China for blowing our equipment up. But even that would be a stretch and is untrue. | ||||
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08-02-2007, 03:41 PM
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| Didn't China blow up one of thier own satelites? THey said it was old or something and were getting rid of it? | ||||
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