Go Back   The Liberty Lounge Political Forums > Liberty Lounge Discussions > The Floor

Political Forum Click HERE to register your free account and become a member of our community today!
Register to Post a Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-08-2007, 03:31 PM   #1
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Fox News: Gibson Show- Edwards "whored his wife's cancer as a fundraising gimmick"

Just to show you how callous and twisted some of these Fox employees are:


On the August 3 edition of Fox News host John Gibson's nationally syndicated radio program, the show's executive producer, who goes by the name "Angry Rich" on the program, claimed Democratic presidential candidate former Sen. John Edwards (NC) "whored his wife's cancer as a fundraising gimmick." He also went on to call him "a fraud" and "a pansy." Gibson referred to Edwards as "the Breck Girl," "Silky," and "the biggest fraud running for president." Gibson and "Angry Rich" were attacking Edwards for saying that Democratic candidates should give back campaign contributions from News Corp., the parent company of Fox News Channel, while accepting advance and expense money from HarperCollins, another News Corp. division that had published a book written by Edwards; Gibson played an audio clip of Edwards stating that money was donated to charity. They also attacked Edwards for his refusal earlier this year to participate in a debate co-sponsored by Fox News.

From the August 3 edition of Fox News Radio's The John Gibson Show:

GIBSON: Fraud alert. Fraud alert. This is Angry Rich's favorite subject, and it's getting to be mine as well.

AUDIO CLIP: Fraud alert.

GIBSON: Our John Gibson program fraud alert today focuses on the biggest fraud running for president, and that takes some doing. We're talking about the Breck Girl, Silky, the former senator from North Carolina, the baron of a 28,000-square-foot manse, the protector of the poor while ensconced on a pillow of 100 million dollars.

ANGRY RICH: A man who whored his wife's cancer as a fundraising gimmick.

GIBSON: John Edwards today was going after other Democratic candidates, and by other he meant Hillary Clinton, for taking money as political contributions from Rupert Murdoch or from certain employees or executives of either the Fox News Channel or News Corporation, which owns the Fox News Channel. Edwards has a real kind of problem about Fox. He just -- well, actually he doesn't have a problem about Fox. He realizes there are a whole bunch of really far-lefters who hate Fox and he's busy sucking up to them.

[...]

EDWARDS [audio clip from August 3 edition of CNN's The Situation Room]: Well, I had a book called Home that HarperCollins published --

ANGRY RICH: That sucked.

EDWARDS [audio clip]: There was an advance from HarperCollins. Every dime of they money they gave to me has gone to charity, which I committed to do, and I met my commitment. It's gone to things like Habitat for Humanity, helping low-income kids go to college, the International Rescue Committee, so the money is all gone. Not to me, but to important charitable causes. But that's not the point, Wolf. The point of this is that I don't want to see Rupert Murdoch, or anybody else for that matter, owning every newspaper in America. What we've seen with the consolidation of the media is not healthy for this country.

GIBSON: Give me a break. Oh my God.

ANGRY RICH: What a fraud.

GIBSON: Unbelievable. All right, if you're not going to give back the money because it went for charity, how about giving back the money you got on your tax breaks for filing for those charitable contributions? You know, when you hand over a half a million dollars to a charity, you get a quite healthy tax break. Fraud alert. Fraud alert. Fraud alert.

[...]

[audio clip from March 13 edition of The Situation Room]

WOLF BLITZER (host): The Democratic Party in the state of Nevada was going to host the debate together with the Fox News Channel, but you've pulled out, they subsequently canceled that whole debate. Why did you decide to pull out, given the fact that over the years you have appeared as a guest on Fox many, many times?

EDWARDS: Well, first of all, we've got a whole series of debates planned in this --

GIBSON: Bull.

EDWARDS: -- presidential campaigns. Debates, forums --

GIBSON: Bull!

EDWARDS (SOUND CLIP): -- I've been through this before, as you know, Wolf --

GIBSON: Bull!

EDWARDS (SOUND CLIP): -- and I think we had 35 or 40 of these debates and forums in the last --

GIBSON: Bull!

EDWARDS (SOUND CLIP): -- presidential campaign, and we have a bunch of debates in Nevada, not just in general --

GIBSON How --

EDWARDS: -- and I didn't see any reason --

GIBSON: How on earth?

EDWARDS: -- under the circumstances to give Fox a special forum.

GIBSON: How on earth did he --

EDWARDS: I think they have a long history in how they deal with Democrats --

GIBSON: What?

EDWARDS: -- and how they talk about Democrats, and I saw no reason to give them a specialized forum.

BLITZER: So, are you still going to be a guest on their various programs?

EDWARDS: I'll make that judgment as the campaign goes on as the occasion arises, but on this particular case, I thought it was important for me to say I'm not going to be there.

[end audio clip]

GIBSON: Bull, bull --

AUDIO CLIP [from the movie My Cousin Vinny]: Everything that guy just said is bull(bleep).

GIBSON: -- bull, bull, bull. I mean, first of all, he won't come on Fox.

ANGRY RICH: Because he's a pansy.

GIBSON: Because he's afraid. He's afraid of a question. He's afraid of the questions that might be asked of him, like, "Say, Senator, about your poverty program, which would raise the minimum wage to nine dollars and 50 cents an hour, what exactly would that do to small businesses? Say, Senator, how come half of your contributors are lawyers? Would you be in the pocket of trial lawyers who rape the economy?"

Media Matters - Gibson radio show executive producer: Edwards "whored his wife's cancer as a fundraising gimmick"

For any doubters, they have the FULL AUDIO CLIP hosted on their site

What news channel would employ such people? None, which is reason #9847453 why Fox isn't a news channel
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 03:39 PM   #2
Banned
 
ballz2wallz's Avatar

Conservative
Government is another way to say Better Than You
ballz2wallz has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
What news channel would employ such people? None, which is reason #9847453 why Fox isn't a news channel
Because of a radio show?

I'll tell you what news channel would hire 'such people'...MSNBC, with Keith Olby
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 03:46 PM   #3
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Because of a radio show?

I'll tell you what news channel would hire 'such people'...MSNBC, with Keith Olby
Really, he said a Republican/Democractic presidential candidate was whoring out his wife's cancer as a gimmick?

Ok, give me the link

BTW, Newsflash: Fox News has Gibson freely advertise his radio show on Fox News, and talk about it during his Fox News program
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:00 PM   #4
Banned
 
ballz2wallz's Avatar

Conservative
Government is another way to say Better Than You
ballz2wallz has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
BTW, Newsflash: Fox News has Gibson freely advertise his radio show on Fox News, and talk about it during his Fox News program
Ok?

You're still saying Fox News Channel is evil because of Gibson's radio show.

Newsflash: the radio isn't on TV, where FNC is
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #5
Banned
 
ballz2wallz's Avatar

Conservative
Government is another way to say Better Than You
ballz2wallz has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Really, he said a Republican/Democractic presidential candidate was whoring out his wife's cancer as a gimmick?
No, but he has said much worse
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:17 PM   #6
Better Dead than Red
 
SoFlaJDM's Avatar

Democrat
"My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.”
SoFlaJDM has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
No, but he has said much worse

link? audio? hell, i'll even take an out of context quote
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:22 PM   #7
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
link? audio? hell, i'll even take an out of context quote
He's implied that he wouldn't care if anyone he loved was called a whore, so I doubt he even thinks much of these comments, I'm waiting for other people to reply, you should too

Anyway, ontopic, SoFla you hear this kind of stuff from Gibson before...?
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:34 PM   #8
Junkie

libertarian
hsmith is a jewel in the rough

I think he exploited it.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:49 PM   #9
Banned
 
ballz2wallz's Avatar

Conservative
Government is another way to say Better Than You
ballz2wallz has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
I think he exploited it.
The same way he exploited his son's death?
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:50 PM   #10
Junkie

libertarian
hsmith is a jewel in the rough

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
The same way he exploited his son's death?
I wasn't aware he did that
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 04:55 PM   #11
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
I wasn't aware he did that
He didn't and the idea that some people get themselves to think that is repulsive
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 05:07 PM   #12
Braccae tuae aperiuntur.
 
JaJae's Avatar

Reform Party
NJ
JaJae is the Vice President!JaJae is the Vice President!

Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
I wasn't aware he did that
Every time he runs for a political office he makes a post on his blog or goes on the media and says he's "finally able to open up" about his dead son. Or mentions his dead son and then says he doesn't talk about it. He brings it up under the pretense of never bringing it up.

I wouldn't call it whoring his son for votes, but it does seem he has used the event for political advancement. Relatively minor though from what I've seen.
__________________
No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.
Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid: As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #13
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
it does seem he has used the event for political advancement.
Really I understand this place is full of young single males who are typically greedy and uncaring of others, but ask Style if his son died, would he exploit the death of his son for political advancement...ask him what kind of insult that is if anyone were to say to him if his son died?

It's ridiculous, cruel and callous
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 05:33 PM   #14
Braccae tuae aperiuntur.
 
JaJae's Avatar

Reform Party
NJ
JaJae is the Vice President!JaJae is the Vice President!

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Really I understand this place is full of young single males who are typically greedy and uncaring of others, but ask Style if his son died, would he exploit the death of his son for political advancement...ask him what kind of insult that is if anyone were to say to him if his son died?

It's ridiculous, cruel and callous
Really huh? We're greedy and uncaring of others? Thanks for the direct insult...

Stylerod is not Edwards. They are two different people and have two different outlooks and perspectives on life. He is also not a politician running an election doing and saying whatever it is he needs to in order to get elected. Edwards has a history of disgracing himself and dead children for profit as a trial lawyer, this isn't that much of a stretch.

And I'm not saying he's cold-heartedly using his son. I'm saying he realizes that mentioning his son helps him politically as did mentioning his wife's cancer. He's recently harped on his wife's cancer to help his fundraising and poll numbers. I'm not saying he's uncaring and doesn't love his wife. This really isn't any different.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 05:40 PM   #15
Banned
 
ballz2wallz's Avatar

Conservative
Government is another way to say Better Than You
ballz2wallz has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Really I understand this place is full of young single males who are typically greedy and uncaring of others,


You must be old and wise, married, and full of love and charity!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 05:58 PM   #16
Banned - Self Imposed
 
Thorgrim's Avatar

Progressive
Philadelphia, PA
Thorgrim is a Distinguished SenatorThorgrim is a Distinguished Senator

Some people think greed is a virtue and care is only just a form of pity, and I wasn't implying you directly

Stylerod is the only person on here who has a wife and son, as far as I know

It seems very irresponsible to throw around insults towards other people when one has no idea how having a son in your life feels like
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 08:41 PM   #17
Never, never, never give up
 
Stylerod's Avatar

Conservative Party
High Point, NC
Stylerod has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Really I understand this place is full of young single males who are typically greedy and uncaring of others, but ask Style if his son died, would he exploit the death of his son for political advancement...ask him what kind of insult that is if anyone were to say to him if his son died?

It's ridiculous, cruel and callous
WTF? How did I get involved in this????
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 08:44 PM   #18
Better Dead than Red
 
SoFlaJDM's Avatar

Democrat
"My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.”
SoFlaJDM has a spectacular aura about them

Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Anyway, ontopic, SoFla you hear this kind of stuff from Gibson before...?
i don't listen to much talk radio... but when i do, it's ed schultz
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble Upon this Post!
Register to Reply to This Post
Old 08-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #19
ipsa Scientia Potestas est
 
motivez's Avatar

Pragmatist
North Carolina
motivez Has a place in history!motivez Has a place in history!motivez Has a place in history!motivez Has a place in history!

fair and balanced