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Old 08-22-2006, 02:36 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
And to the kids whose parents don't let them work? In my hometown it wasn't a big deal.

But in the town I work in, it's fairly common. The families are wealthy and often the parents want their kids to focus on school, not work. They buy their kids and all that, but monitor their money allowances. Because the area is wealthy the PP out by me charges $45 a month for BC pills without insurance (private). Over six months that's $270. That's not easy for a 14-17 year old to get. Not to mention they may need transportation there (legal driving age is being moved to 18 in NJ).

In theory it sounds easy. But when you're younger, it's difficult.

difficult? I guess it could be. the point is that it is available and attainable, the same way that the morning after pill will be if made over the counter
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:39 PM   #42
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YouTube - Colbert Report Nebraska 2nd District

"Omaha citizens are great on the phone because they don't have accents, they sound like they are from nowhere...which is partially true"

I rest my case
Yeah but its easy to get laid in the middle of no where... the girls have very few options and they are just as horny as anything with a penis..they just don't admit it
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:41 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
difficult? I guess it could be. the point is that it is available and attainable, the same way that the morning after pill will be if made over the counter
Not the same at all. Planned parenthood has doctors who check you out before giving you any medication. They also obtain a little work for most people. You need an appointment for BC and such.

Having the morning after pill on the shelf next to Tylenol at your local convenient store, gas station or supermarket is completely different than having it obtainable from a professional medical clinic.
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:44 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Not the same at all. Planned parenthood has doctors who check you out before giving you any medication. They also obtain a little work for most people. You need an appointment for BC and such.

Having the morning after pill on the shelf next to Tylenol at your local convenient store, gas station or supermarket is completely different than having it obtainable from a professional medical clinic.
why is birth control a prescription medication?
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:44 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
my g/f and I both had jobs when we were in high school, $50 a month or something isn't that big of a deal
it's not a big deal when it's spent on cds or movies or something, not medical shit.
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:45 PM   #46
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why is birth control a prescription medication?
It's hormones not unlike steriods. Why shouldn't it be?
 
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why is birth control a prescription medication?
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:46 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
it's not a big deal when it's spent on cds or movies or something, not medical shit.
trust me, 50 bucks a month to fuck without a rubber was money well spent when I was 18
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:47 PM   #49
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It's hormones not unlike steriods. Why shouldn't it be?
because it is not something that needs a diagnosis, it's a guessing game of how an individual will react

just like tylenol can have very adverse reactions, but you don't need a doc to guess for you and write it down so you can buy it
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:49 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
because it is not something that needs a diagnosis, it's a guessing game of how an individual will react

just like tylenol can have very adverse reactions, but you don't need a doc to guess for you and write it down so you can buy it
Are you comparing the severity of effects of Tylenol and Birth Control?
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:51 PM   #51
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Are you comparing the severity of effects of Tylenol and Birth Control?
people can die from alergic reactions to Tylenol, can you do any worse than die from birth control?
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:52 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
because it is not something that needs a diagnosis, it's a guessing game of how an individual will react
they might not be checking the adverse affects of the drug as much as they are checking to see if their body can handle it.

much like viagra...the drug itself doesn't necessarily have adverse affects but people with heart proplems or other drugs can't take it. each person has a different body, and each person has different needs. it's up to the doctor to figure out what they are able to handle. it's not something the consumer can simply pick themselves.
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:52 PM   #53
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people can die from alergic reactions to Tylenol, can you do any worse than die from birth control?
People can die from an allergic reaction to peanuts. What's your point?
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:53 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
people can die from alergic reactions to Tylenol, can you do any worse than die from birth control?
tylenol would be a prescription drug today too if it wasn't so old
 
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People can die from an allergic reaction to peanuts. What's your point?
peanuts should be prescription only too?
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:54 PM   #56
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People can die from an allergic reaction to peanuts. What's your point?
that rare individual side effects of a drug should not eliminate it from easy access on the counter of your local pharmacy

there should be greater reasons to do so if it needs a prescription
 
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Originally Posted by thomez View Post
that rare individual side effects of a drug should not eliminate it from easy access on the counter of your local pharmacy

there should be greater reasons to do so if it needs a prescription
i've already told you.
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:55 PM   #58
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they might not be checking the adverse affects of the drug as much as they are checking to see if their body can handle it.

much like viagra...the drug itself doesn't necessarily have adverse affects but people with heart proplems or other drugs can't take it. each person has a different body, and each person has different needs. it's up to the doctor to figure out what they are able to handle. it's not something the consumer can simply pick themselves.
I disagree - with proper warning labels and consumer information, I see no reason why they cannot make their own educated decision on a topic such as this.
 
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I disagree - with proper warning labels and consumer information, I see no reason why they cannot make their own educated decision on a topic such as this.
you're asking a lot from these people already.

you think the people in need of BC this easily are the educated ones? yeah...
 
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:06 PM   #60
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you're asking a lot from these people already.

you think the people in need of BC this easily are the educated ones? yeah...
yes, I have no problem asking a lot of people in regards to making choices for their own lives
 
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