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Old 08-23-2006, 10:05 PM   #61
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Ok guys cut the personal attacks now.
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:12 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by willis View Post
can we play fantasy and you describe an opinion on whether you think actions like these are wrong or right without appealing to "that's the law, deal with it hippie"??


So it's about "opinion" now? Ok, I think the actions were right.

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Old 08-24-2006, 12:50 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
So it's about "opinion" now? Ok, I think the actions were right.

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Ok, so, like we've been asking you the entire thread, WHY do you think they're right? And "because it's the law" isn't an answer (that's actually a fallacy called "Begging the Question")
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 12:59 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by Ardentfrost View Post
Ok, so, like we've been asking you the entire thread, WHY do you think they're right? And "because it's the law" isn't an answer (that's actually a fallacy called "Begging the Question")


I have answered it 94 times. I am done.
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:01 PM   #65
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and we've told you 95 times why what you're saying doesn't make sense.
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:05 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by Ardentfrost View Post
and we've told you 95 times why what you're saying doesn't make sense.



Because you have to agree with my opinion? I think you and your friends' reasoning is nonsense...you think mine is nonsense. We'll leave it at that. (But at least I have precedent on my side.)
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:10 PM   #67
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:12 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Because you have to agree with my opinion? I think you and your friends' reasoning is nonsense...you think mine is nonsense. We'll leave it at that. (But at least I have precedent on my side.)


Precedent is also on Bush's side in this wiretapping business... Just because you agree with precedent doesn't make you right, nor does the fact that there is a precedent mean it's a good idea.
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:16 PM   #69
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Precedent is also on Bush's side in this wiretapping business... Just because you agree with precedent doesn't make you right, nor does the fact that there is a precedent mean it's a good idea.
yeah, that's called "Appeal to Common Practice." It's not right just because it's done.
 
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:21 PM   #70
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No, it's called "change the law if you don't like it."

BTW, this is nothing like Bush...the courts have slapped his ass down after he did what he wanted to.


I hate the war on drugs...I think it is a waste of time and money. It had brought about a number of questionable laws. In this case, I agree with the courts. Sorry you guys can't deal with that.
 
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