Originally Posted by motivez The same data that had been finagled by high level people working with the Administration to help them make their case for war. You said finagled In all seriousness though, didn't they grab the black sharpie on some documents? While normally I would agree they had ...
08-17-2007, 02:04 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ 
| Originally Posted by motivez 
 You said finagled In all seriousness though, didn't they grab the black sharpie on some documents? While normally I would agree they had access to enough information that they knew what they were getting into, the Bush admin wasn't exactly up front about everything.
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08-17-2007, 02:06 PM
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| Lurker  Conservative NH
| Originally Posted by Donkey® the 9/11 commision report disagrees with you.
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08-17-2007, 02:09 PM
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| Lurker Conservative NH
| Originally Posted by motivez FactCheck.org: Iraq: What Did Congress Know, And When?
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08-17-2007, 02:11 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by phreak Really? The 9/11 commission report says they hate us for our freedom?
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08-17-2007, 02:25 PM
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| Originally Posted by phreak
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08-17-2007, 03:01 PM
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| Yeah, that guy.  Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by phreak Actually, it doesn't.
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08-17-2007, 04:04 PM
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| Lurker Conservative NH
| Originally Posted by Scrum
Originally Posted by Donkey®
Originally Posted by garbagemanlb
Bin Ladin’s grievance with the United States may have started in reaction to specific U.S. policies but it quickly became far deeper.To the second question,what America could do,al Qaeda’s answer was that America should abandon the Middle East, convert to Islam, and end the immorality and godlessness of its society and culture:"It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind." If the United States did not comply, it would be at war with the Islamic nation, a nation that al Qaeda’s leaders said "desires death more than you desire life." | ||||
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08-17-2007, 04:30 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| the only reason he said that was because he had to...muslim clerics are very specific that you have to give your enemy a chance to convert to Islam before waging any war... And abandoning the middle east is exactly what people like Ron Paul have pointed out | ||||
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08-17-2007, 04:38 PM
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| Deuteronomy 32:41  Paleolibertarian USA
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 NO. Clinton was in office then. This is all just more evidence of the good guy / bad guy game that the NWO plays with us. It's no longer a wild conspiracy theory to believe that they democrats and republicans are on the same team, and only pretend to switch sides in order to give everyone the pretend "choice" of who to vote for.
It's like the cop coming into the room and telling you you have a choice- big black cop with a nightstick beat a confession out of you, or big white cop with a nightstick beat a confession out of you. Real choice there, huh?
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08-17-2007, 05:47 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Donkey®
Have you watched the Gore Video even once? 
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08-17-2007, 07:14 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON Gore had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq, nor has he been blowing smoke up the countrys ass about how great everything is over there.
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08-17-2007, 08:35 PM
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| Master Debator Election Moderator  Democrat Omaha, NE
| I think that we are missing the bigger issue and the bigger picture that can be taken from this video. You can talk about Al Gore, Bill Clinton, George Tenet, or any other democrat or democratic appointment in goverment and how they said Saddam Hussein was a threat. You can use the argument that 9/11 changed everything and that we actually had to some something about this alledged threat. 9/11 did not change what the situation would be after we removed this dictator. This mother fucker knew what was going to happen when Saddam was removed. He knew it, and said we would be greated as liberators when trying to sell it. He knew it and was in the position to plan for such events, and he didnt. Now nearly 4,000 soldiers have given their lives, tens of thousands of iraqis are dead, and hundreds of billions have been spent. This guy is a bastard and he should rot some place, whether it be hell or jail, or some where. He knew, and did nothing. Its unfortunate or disgusting that the only "news" that gets it is Jon Stewart. | ||||
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08-19-2007, 10:00 AM
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| A realist in the land of the fanatical  Realist Kansas City, MO 
| Originally Posted by Donkey® This was my opinion. I listed the facts with "FACT" listed behind them. Again, do you care to refute any of the facts I listed or are you following your orders by spinning yet again?
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08-19-2007, 05:21 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Scrum The Gulf War was the subject of Gore's "Too little too Late" speech.
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08-19-2007, 05:25 PM
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| Political Genius Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by DosEquis
It is unfortunate that some people think an imitation Saturday Night Live "Weekend Update" Skit is a News program! | ||||
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08-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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| no es mi culpa  Independent Beantown
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON guess you're never watched the DS considering the guests and the good questions the show raises......
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08-20-2007, 06:43 PM
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| Originally Posted by RMNIXON When you can't attack the message, attack the source.
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08-20-2007, 08:08 PM
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| I'm not sure whether anybody realizes this, but 1991 and 2003 were actually different years. Just because it might not have been a good idea 12 years before doesn't mean it was a bad idea a decade later. | ||||
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08-20-2007, 08:10 PM
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| Originally Posted by Linzyhop I guess you watch it so often that you've forgotten that it's a comedy/satire show, not a news show.
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08-20-2007, 08:58 PM
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